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The Possibility of Nuclear War with Russia

Reformed

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Putin and his cronies are saber-rattling with the idea of using tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine. So, what if Russia does? Outside of economic sanctions and making Russia a pariah nation, what nation is going to stand up to him? The EU nations won't. They will stamp their feet and pound the table with their fists at the useless United Nations, but nothing else. My real fear is that a weak leader will overcompensate for their weakness by doing something rash. By "weak leader" I mean the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. He already told Putin there will be serious consequences if Russia uses nuclear weapons. What consequences? Direct military action? The closest the United States came to nuclear war with Russia was during the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis. That was when Russia was the Soviet Union. Back then the presence of nuclear missiles in Cuba presented a direct threat to the United States. John F. Kennedy was not a weak president. The Soviet Union backed down. Putin is a Megalomaniac. It is possible, if not probable, that he will use tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine. How should the free world respond?

I think the right choice is to completely isolate Russia from the world community, as well as any other nation that does not do so. I am not talking about weak economic sanctions that accomplish little. I mean absolute complete isolation. Expel their ambassadors from as many nations as possible. Do not import or export petroleum or any other energy-related product. No commerce of any kind. A complete travel ban to and from Russia. No port-of-calls allowed by Russian vessels. Ban Russia from all international sporting events, including the Olympic games. Break off aerospace cooperation. Evict Russian cosmonauts from the ISS and use SpaceX to support American astronauts. Confiscate all Russian financial assets held in foreign banks.

The real problem comes into play if Putin takes military action against any NATO nation in response to the world community isolating Russia. Does the United States honor its NATO treaty obligation? Are we willing to have a direct military confrontation with Russia, or do we support our NATO allies but stop short of committing troops?
 

xlsdraw

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Bologna.

God did not give us the spirit of fear.

God is Sovereign.

Quit worrying about what men will do.

Read chapters 36 through 48 of Ezekiel.

Chapter 36 through 39 of Ezekiel are loaded with the phrase "I will". Learn to trust the "I will" God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
 

Conan

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You listen only to one side. Putin didn't threaten to use nuclear weapons against the West. You should listen to his speeches, instead of western propaganda which seeks to demonize your enemy. Look at how you have been played already, Putin didn't say what you said he did. That is a lie from the western press. You will hate him more and them less is the reason they told that lie. His words were in response to the British lady, when asked by someone if they had to use nuclear weapons their stomach would be tied in knots. She said she considered it as part of her job to use them. So Putin mentioned in his speech that the west may be surprised that the Russians may have more advanced stuff than give credit for.

The fact that you fall for propaganda is the Cuban missile crisis, why it happened. The truth has been out for years, The problem was that the United States put missiles in Turkey, so the Soviet Union put missiles in Cuba. Why did the Soviet Union withdraw nuclear weapons from Cuba? Because the United States of America agreed to pull out it's missiles from Turkey! You have no knowledge of that? At least you now see why Russia doesn't want Ukraine to join Nato so the US can put missiles on its boarders. They warned us that is an unacceptable red flag since at least 2014. Anyone with any reason should understand that. That it is Nato, leed by the US that is pushing the Russians past what they said was acceptable.

Also remember what the enemy ge0rge s0r0s said when the billionaires met at Davos. The war must continue in Ukraine even if humanity is confronted with nuclear war we must take the risk. How evil is that leftist elites enemy of America and all mankind.
 

Conan

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I think the right choice is to completely isolate Russia from the world community, as well as any other nation that does not do so. I am not talking about weak economic sanctions that accomplish little. I mean absolute complete isolation. Expel their ambassadors from as many nations as possible. Do not import or export petroleum or any other energy-related product. No commerce of any kind. A complete travel ban to and from Russia. No port-of-calls allowed by Russian vessels. Ban Russia from all international sporting events, including the Olympic games. Break off aerospace cooperation. Evict Russian cosmonauts from the ISS and use SpaceX to support American astronauts. Confiscate all Russian financial assets held in foreign banks.
We are already doing this. It has backfired on us. The Rubal is up. Russia is selling gas to China and India. Consequentially the Europeans aren't allowed to buy Russian gas, so they get to pay 4 or 5 times the amount from us, or pay India a profit as a go between. Haven't you heard of Bricks+. India and China and others see what we are doing. If Russia falls they know they are next seeing what we are doing to Russia. Russia, China, India, Iran, Brazil plus others who want to join. If Russia wins the US will loose its power and the petrol dollar will be defunct. If the US wins Russia will be broken up between the Western Billionaires and China will be next. Don't be a fool the world see's what's going on. We are not the good guys.
Germans hit the street to demand the Russian pipeline Nordstrom 2 be turned on so they dont freeze this winter. Then the Pennsylvania avenue dude bombed it to take that option off the table for the German people.
 

Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin

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I'm debating on finishing a fall out shelter in my basement. I highly doubt a nuke will ever detonate anywhere near me, unless our enemies really hate black bears, cattle and chickens.
 

Guvnuh

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I don’t worry about it. I’m not afraid for God is Sovereign.

But he did give us common sense to prepare for such a time. No different than preparing for heavy rains, tornadoes, power outages, hurricanes etc.
Most of the time if ye wait long ye wait wrong.
 

Reynolds

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As Sting wrote: "I hope the Russians love their children too."
They do. They are not evil. They are nationalist. The USA has historically been nationalist. Both nations have competing interests. Historically Russia has been the Godless nation. At the moment, the U.S. is more Godless than Russia.
 

Reynolds

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I'm debating on finishing a fall out shelter in my basement. I highly doubt a nuke will ever detonate anywhere near me, unless our enemies really hate black bears, cattle and chickens.
Same out here. Experts say ATL would be a target, but nuking ATL would eliminate 90% of Georgia's problems.
 
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