The Sanctity of Life...Body,Spirit, and Soul

[Happy]

Christ poured out his soul unto death when he said, "Father into your hands I commend my spirit." Spirit/life departed from the blood. Death came to the soul in the flesh? <That's a question. That which was made from the ground was no longer living, ie flesh and bones?

Jesus came to earth as a humbled servant, in a body, (in the likeness as a man), prepared of God.

Jesus came to earth to fulfill laws, prophecy, teach, be an example and GIVE his flesh body unto death, and his blood for forgiveness of mankind's sin.

Living souls depart dying bodies, as did Jesus' living soul depart his dying body.
His living soul went to hell to preach to those in prison.
His living soul DID NOT suffer 'death' or corruption. (ie death/rotting/destruction/separation from God)

His Spirit departed His dying body and went to Gods Hands.
His Spirit DID NOT suffer "death' or corruption.

His DEAD BODY was buried in an "unused" Priest's tomb, and remained there for 3 days & nights....
Until.. His living soul returned to His body and His Spirit returned to His body and His body once again was SEEN living and walked among men.

Heb.10

1. [5] Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

John.6

1. [51] I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

Matt.12

1. [40] For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

1 Pet 3
[18] For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
[19] By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

Pss.16

1. [10] For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

 

[Billx]

Why is only cute angels unborn and not to be born are the hot issue. All life is sacred. Abortion is not the only issue. Consider;
Has anyone been following the event at Fukushima? It could bring extinction to the planet because we have no idea how to stop the continuing flood of radiation. Hanford WA is leaking into the water table. Almost all nuclear power plants are beyond their expected life span. We have no idea how to rid our selves of nuclear waste. AND WE WANT TO SELL MORE REACTORS. It sounds to me like the human psyche is broken. And we are ready for a war which will change humanity forever. We hear the words "I will make America great again" and " America will be number 1." We heard the same words in 1932. He was going to make Germany great again and not to forget Germany Over All as the anthem.

The human psyche unless it it is filled adoration of God will be filled with the base elements of the world. We know where this is going and may God have mercy upon us all.

 

[Darrell C]

Spiritual Death has to do with what is Spiritual ~ ie the Living Soul. <--- GIVEN ~ imparted INTO a Physical Body.

Great. Now all you need is Scripture to support that.

Nothing in Scripture notifies us that "Living Souls" are ALL, "sentenced" to Death.

Romans 5:12
King James Version (KJV)

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:


A "living soul" is no different than when God created Adam, who, after receiving a spirit and a body, became a living soul.

Death in ANY form IS a "separation" from LIFE. And God is Life.

That is the point, Happy: man is born dead, spiritually, having only physical life.

Man (ie body) AND living (soul) IS ONE individual KIND of thing, with LIFE in him.

Man has no life until he is regenerate, which is the time in which they are placed in union with God (Who is Life) through Christ.

You are failing to distinguish between physical and spiritual life.

A body is PHYSICAL, the Living Soul is SPIRITUAL.

Great, now all you need is Scripture to support that.

Again, Adam did not receive a living soul...he became one.

Bodies PHYSICALLY die ~ Spiritual Living Souls do not "physically" die.

No argument there, lol.


God bless.

 

[Darrell C]

Scripture informs us: God FORMED Adam from the earth AND imparted LIFE into Him, through His nostrils, AFTER Adam was FORMED.

Scripture informs us: God FORMS mankind's BODY "in the womb" of a woman.

As well, as already pointed out, that God views the life in the womb as an individual life, requiring Life for Life if that life is terminated.

Nothing in Scripture informs us: God breaths LIFE into a BODY, "in the process of being FORMED".

Doesn't need to, because there is a difference, also already pointed out, between the creative formation of the first man...and procreation.

Secondly, there is a distinction made in Scripture between Adam and those born under the curse. Man comes into this world now in a fallen state, so a comparison between how Adam was formed and how babies are formed is moot.

What is not moot is the fact that you have adopted a liberal view, and because of this you must incessantly argue what is basic in Scripture.

This ISSUE in Scripture of your reference was about a man, other than the woman's husband, in some way causing the pregnant wife of the other man, to go into labor and deliver the baby.

IF the baby, once delivered survives ~ the husband of the woman was given the right to decide the other mans punishment.

IF the baby, once delivered ~ doesn't survive ~ the man who caused the injury to the woman was subject to a death sentence.

If what has been said already cannot compel you to be direct about what is written, it is doubtful anything can.

You still ignore the simple fact that if the baby dies, the offender's own life is forfeit. That creates an equality between the life that is in the womb and the life of the offender.

That's just the fact that will destroy the liberal, child murdering doctrine of Liberals.


God bless.

 

[Darrell C]

Why is only cute angels unborn and not to be born are the hot issue. All life is sacred. Abortion is not the only issue. Consider;
Has anyone been following the event at Fukushima? It could bring extinction to the planet because we have no idea how to stop the continuing flood of radiation. Hanford WA is leaking into the water table. Almost all nuclear power plants are beyond their expected life span. We have no idea how to rid our selves of nuclear waste. AND WE WANT TO SELL MORE REACTORS. It sounds to me like the human psyche is broken. And we are ready for a war which will change humanity forever.

The unborn child is central because that is one of the primary issues of the OP.

This is not a thread about the fears of those who do not see that "the End" is already written, and it will be controlled by God...not man. So no efforts of preserving the earth need be a topic of discussion in a thread dealing with Biblical Doctrine.

So relax about radiation.

We hear the words "I will make America great again" and " America will be number 1." We heard the same words in 1932. He was going to make Germany great again and not to forget Germany Over All as the anthem.

This is also not a thread about a Democratic and Liberal view of Trump, who, unlike Hitler, has a concern for people who are being gassed by their own leaders.

While I would love to discuss the hypocrisy of Liberals, who whine about collusion with Russia, yet say not a word when their puppet president, on national television, says "I will have more leeway when the election is over," the fact is...

...the issues being discussed by the OP are far more relevant, and will help liberals come to a better understanding of the Bible they profess to believe in, all the while murdering infants and defending the rights of homosexuals.
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The human psyche unless it it is filled adoration of God will be filled with the base elements of the world. We know where this is going and may God have mercy upon us all.

The simple fact is that God...will not have mercy on all.

Read Revelation.

Another simple fact is that believers are a minority in this world, always have been, always will be, so my suggestion is...throw off the fears of the world. Instead of worrying that somehow man is going to supersede Biblical Prophecy and destroy the world before God gets the chance to fulfill Prophecy...find out what is actually going to happen. It's right there in the Word of GOd.


God bless.

 

[Darrell C]

Man receives A "living soul", thus is ALSO identified By his Body and his Living Soul.

Show me in Scripture where man "receives a living soul." I know of only one text that even comes close to that, and that does not alleviate the problem of the many passages that make it clear that "soul" is a reference to a person in their totality.

And you can save yourself some time in posting repeats of what you have already stated which has been addressed.


God bless.

 

[Darrell C]

Darrell C said: ↑

Again...you still overlook the fact that Life for Life is invoked.

Not true.

It is true, lol. It's right there:


Exodus 21:22-25

King James Version (KJV)

22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.

23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,

24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,

25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.


It's really a very simple concept. If a man hits another, and knocks out his tooth, that man's tooth is forfeit. IF a man causes the death of another, that man's own life is forfeit.

Just not that hard to understand, Happy.


God bless.

 

[Darrell C]

Darrell C said: ↑

More irrelevancy.

This is about as absurd an argument as I think I have run across in a while. And for what? To support a Liberal view?

I do not agree comprehending the KNOWLEDGE of God, is either irrelevant or liberal.

I agree, I was referring to a completely irrelevant statement in response to what I said:

Happy said:
{QUOTE=Darrell C]Darrell C said:
That is irrelevant. Even after a child is born they are still "dependent."

Really? I thought they were "gifts" for the "earthly parents" to be temporary stewards of those gifts.[/QUOTE]

The argument that a child is dependent on the mother and how that is relevant to the child being a unique life has nothing to do with whether a child is a gift from God or not.

That is the Liberal inflection which seeks to give a mother a "right" over the very life of the child.

No mother has the right to take the life of the child God has given here...for any reason.

Your interjection of such implication is merely a deflection and has zero to do with the truth.

No, it is, like everything else I have addressed, a direct response to this liberal nonsense that refuses to acknowledge a pretty simple concept found throughout Scripture.

God is clear in regards to men killing men, despite age or gender (and there are only two, by the way).


God bless.

 

[Darrell C]

It has NOTHING whatsoever to do with philosophy.

The body IS a "thing"! It's a form, a creature, something visible to manKIND'S eyes.

Now let's examine the basis of your syllogistic conclusion:

The "thing" in Mary's womb, was Holy, and revealed unto manKIND'S eyes.

Show me "thing" in the original text, then, show me why we would take a modern application of an English Word, insert it into a text...then build secular philiosohy from it.

We would only do that if we were trying to support a Liberal Position of the Secular World.

You may not believe me, Happy, but this is precisely what you are doing.

Luke.1

1. [35] And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

See the link. It will help you, Happy.

" a lifeless thing" is your words, NOT MINE".

That is p[precisely what you are teaching:

The body IS a "thing"!

I have already quoted you concerning this, and you still deny Life for Life, because Liberal philosophy depends on it.

The LIFE "OF" man is his BLOOD.

As I said, one can receive a transfusion and not lose his "life." Nor does he gain the personality or character of the one the blood comes from.

While it is true that if a man's blood is depleted, his physical life will end, that does not mean that the man ends. THis is the point of Matthew 10:28.

The LIFE "IN" man is his LIVING SOUL.

Again...man is not born with Life:


John 6:53
King James Version (KJV)

53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.


He has physical life only, Happy.

Eternal Life is the Life of God which began...after Pentecost:


John 7:38-39
King James Version (KJV)

38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

The FOREVER LIFE "IN" a man is his QUICKENED SPIRIT. (ie his NEW spirit, birthed from Gods Seed).

"Forever life," or, eternal or everlasting life...is the result of regeneration, which takes place when a man is baptized with the Holy Ghost, which is to say, when a man is immersed into God, which is to say, when men are reconciled to God.

A body in the process of BEING FORMED, is "sustained" by dependency on the MOTHERS BLOOD, ie the MOTHERS LIFE.

Again, irrelevant, because a baby remains dependent for years.

You can deny that the babe in the womb is a unique person, a life of their own, but...the Word of God does not:


Luke 1:41-42
King James Version (KJV)

41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.


The question we have to ask is...why would you want to?


God bless.

 

[Darrell C]

Darrell C said: ↑

What "changes in the body?"

Could you please provide a Scriptural basis for this statement?

There is no "new body" for the Spirit of God to enter...He enters the one we are born with.

We have a new spirit and new heart, not because God needs something "to go into," but we have a new heart and spirit because God enters into us.

There is no "new body" YET. However there IS a new heart. A heart that is pure and satisfactory for the TRUTH / Spirit / Christ of God to indwell.

Again...where is your Scripture?

Support your statement.

Be it a body, a soul, a heart <--- those are simply vessels, which can HOLD life. God IS life and the giver OF life, by the presence of His LIFE "in such vessels".

Scripture?

The "living soul" IN the body, departs....WHEN the body physically dies.

Scripture?

Again, where you are making a mistake is in not distinguishing between physical and spiritual life, then, to add to that, the distinction between spiritual life being Eternal or not.

All men have a body, all men have a spirit, and all men are living souls (which applies whether they are physically alive or not). However, not all men have Eternal Life, we are in fact born without life, because we are born separated from God.


God bless.

 

[Darrell C]

Yes. Why do you think a soul requires "restoring"?

That's not really the point, because I do believe a "soul" requires "restoring," the restoration being to a relationship with God, which a person is born without.

Think about it Happy: if God was in Christ reconciling the world unto Himself...when did that begin?

You can replace "soul" with "person" and understand most texts in that perspective, and keep the original understanding of what is being said. When a "soul went down into the grave" in view is not the immaterial aspect of that person going into a physical grave, it is simply a way to say...they died.

How do you think men of the OT became saints, BEFORE Christ came to bestow Life upon men?

A "saint" (in a context dealing with believers, the term is also used of Angels) is a believer, one who belongs to God, not...a born again believer. In other words, a Saint in the Old Testament should not be equated with a Saint in the New in regards to Revelation and Regeneration.

Abraham did not place his faith in Christ Jesus, for example, he did not trust that Christ died for him. He did not receive the Spirit that Christ sent...after He returned to heaven from whence He came.

Now, to answer the question more specifically, Old Testament Saints became "saints" the same way we do...by coming to obedience to God's revelation of His will for our lives. And His will is that we come into obedience...

...to the Gospel.

Sorry, no, the body at no time becomes pure, as it is still in need of redemption

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Phil.3

1. [21] Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

Right, this speaks of the time when we are physically resurrected...not during our lifetimes. This is when our flesh is redeemed.


Here is what you said:

Happy said:
"ALSO" ~ the Living soul becomes RESTORED, called "saved" ~thus becomes PURE, holy, as it was when God imparted it into the body.

You imply a purity for the physical body which does not exist for those of us who are saved. We remain in fallen flesh. And will until we are resurrected at the Rapture.


God bless.

 

[Darrell C]

Pss.23
[3] He restoreth my soul:

Just as easily understood as "He restores me." This would include the spirit of man.

Because man is a living soul that is what is restored, lol.

Phil.3

1. [21] Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

Right. In the rapture we will receive glorified bodies like as our Lord did in His Resurrection.

Irrelevant to the "soul." we will still be a soul at that time, not...we will have a soul, or receive a new soul.

Ezek.18
[31] Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit:

Right, This is man doing in his own power that which he can do. The "heart" and "spirit" here refer to man's mentality, not the immaterial aspect of his being.

God would not demand something of a man he cannot perform, and it is impossible for men to give themselves a new "spirit" in an eternal sense.

Understand?

This is why Ezekiel 36:22-27 is so significant in relation to the Promises of God, for it is GOd that will perform these actions, which is consistent with salvation, which is wholly the work of Holy God.

Rom.12
[2] And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind,

Again, this pertains to man's performance within salvation, not something that attains salvation.

So we have to compare apples with apples, Happy.

And I am out of time, but thanks for the responses. I usually address in more detail but time is limited, and I see no point in re-posting on what has already been addressed. Hopefully the new responses will allow us to narrow the discussion to crucial points, and we can get to a more focused discussion of the "soul."


God bless.

 

[Happy]

Great. Now all you need is Scripture to support that.

Spiritual Death has to do with what is Spiritual ~ ie the Living Soul. <--- GIVEN ~ imparted INTO a Physical Body.

God is Spirit ~ It matters what He accounts as death, which IS a Spiritual separation from Him.

The "LIVING" soul is LIVING ~ weather it is WITH God or WITHOUT God ~ WITHOUT God, it is Spiritually dead.

The "BODY" is a LIVING thing ~ weather it is WITH God or WITHOUT God ~ WITHOUT God, it is Spiritually dead.

You have been given Scripture ~ Adam was a created thing formed from dust ~ called a man.

He had NO LIFE "in him "~ ie his body~ Until God breathed the breath of life INTO Adam.

Once Adam received LIFE ~ a LIVING SOUL ~ Adam became a LIVING man AND a LIVING soul.

 

[Happy]

As well, as already pointed out, that God views the life in the womb as an individual life, requiring Life for Life if that life is terminated.

Your personal view is of no interest to me.

A fetus IS NOT an independent individual until it is BORN, and IS dependent upon the mothers blood in the placenta.

Adam was NOT a "man", which is to say a KIND of thing created, UNTIL he was completely formed, just as Scripture teaches; a completely formed body, by the emphasis of "ed", done, complete, formED.

Then was he, called a man, formed, and Given the breath of life from God.

Life for life is NOT an issue with an unborn fetus. Life for life has NO consideration until AFTER the baby is born, and THEN only if it dies.

 

[Happy]

Show me in Scripture where man "receives a living soul." I know of only one text that even comes close to that, and that does not alleviate the problem of the many passages that make it clear that "soul" is a reference to a person in their totality.

And you can save yourself some time in posting repeats of what you have already stated which has been addressed.


God bless.

Well no kidding, I have repeatedly shown you the Scripture.
Problem is I can not "understand" it for you.

Try harder to simply trust the truth.

Man ~

Gen 2
[7] And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,

Gen 3
[19] In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

Ecc 3
[20] All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.

Ecc 12
[7] Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

 

[Darrell C]

Great. Now all you need is Scripture to support that.

Spiritual Death has to do with what is Spiritual ~ ie the Living Soul. <--- GIVEN ~ imparted INTO a Physical Body.

God is Spirit ~ It matters what He accounts as death, which IS a Spiritual separation from Him.

The "LIVING" soul is LIVING ~ weather it is WITH God or WITHOUT God ~ WITHOUT God, it is Spiritually dead.

The "BODY" is a LIVING thing ~ weather it is WITH God or WITHOUT God ~ WITHOUT God, it is Spiritually dead.

You have been given Scripture ~ Adam was a created thing formed from dust ~ called a man.

He had NO LIFE "in him "~ ie his body~ Until God breathed the breath of life INTO Adam.

Once Adam received LIFE ~ a LIVING SOUL ~ Adam became a LIVING man AND a LIVING soul.

First...still no Scripture.

Second, please follow proper quoting procedure. I'd hate for someone to think that was me speaking.




God bless.

 

[Darrell C]

As well, as already pointed out, that God views the life in the womb as an individual life, requiring Life for Life if that life is terminated.

Your personal view is of no interest to me.

Then explain the responses...

A fetus IS NOT an independent individual until it is BORN, and IS dependent upon the mothers blood in the placenta.

Show me in Scripture where a child in the womb is called a fetus. Called fruit, sure, so same first letter, same number of letters...close enough, right?

The child in the womb is dependent on the mother both before and after birth.

Adam was NOT a "man", which is to say a KIND of thing created, UNTIL he was completely formed, just as Scripture teaches; a completely formed body, by the emphasis of "ed", done, complete, formED.

So God did not breathe the breath of life into...man?


Genesis 2:7
King James Version (KJV)

7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.


Run down to the morgue and look at a few people who do not have breath, and do not have blood...still men. But what they are not are living souls. The spirit has departed from the body and that soul, that is, that person, is either in Hades or Heaven.

I will ask again:


Genesis 46:26
King James Version (KJV)

26 All the souls that came with Jacob into Egypt, which came out of his loins, besides Jacob's sons' wives, all the souls were threescore and six;


Is the "life force" or immaterial aspect of men in view here?

Then was he, called a man, formed, and Given the breath of life from God.

Not what the text states:


Genesis 2:7
King James Version (KJV)

7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.


Adam was man when formed, and the distinction made here is that he was alive after receiving the breath of life.

Life for life is NOT an issue with an unborn fetus.

Happy, stop.

You cannot say that the unborn child is irrelevant to the text. The child is in the womb when the offense takes place.

If a miscarriage results, the child is never...born. The child never has the breath of life.

Life for life has NO consideration until AFTER the baby is born, and THEN only if it dies.

What if the child dies in the womb? That falls under further mischief, Happy.


Exodus 21:22-23
King James Version (KJV)

22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.

23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,


"No mischief following" has a scenario where the child is born and there is no reason for life for life to be exacted. Whether the child dies (and remember the death refers to the child and the mother, the child being in the womb) or the mother dies...it is life for life.

That makes the child...a life.

If the child dies in the womb...do you think the offender is not held accountable?


God bless.

 

[Darrell C]

Show me in Scripture where man "receives a living soul." I know of only one text that even comes close to that, and that does not alleviate the problem of the many passages that make it clear that "soul" is a reference to a person in their totality.

And you can save yourself some time in posting repeats of what you have already stated which has been addressed.


God bless.

Well no kidding, I have repeatedly shown you the Scripture.

There is no Scripture that teaches that man "receives a living soul..

So how could you have possibly shown me the Scripture?


Genesis 2
King James Version (KJV)

7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Problem is I can not "understand" it for you.

This is true. You cannot understand it for yourself, much less someone else.

Try harder to simply trust the truth.

Great advice.

Man ~

Gen 2
[7] And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,

Notice Man is formed of the dust of the ground?

Doesn't say he was not yet a man, but a man.

Gen 3
[19] In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

And who is in view? Man.

Ecc 3
[20] All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.

Just want to point out that this is a temporal perspective, and really has no relevance to the fuller understanding we have today. The writer was not denying the resurrection of the dead, but simply speaks of man's physical death.

Ecc 12
[7] Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Notice that it does not say the "soul" returns to God?




God bless.

 

[Happy]

As well, as already pointed out, that God views the life in the womb as an individual life, requiring Life for Life if that life is terminated.

Doesn't need to, because there is a difference, also already pointed out, between the creative formation of the first man...and procreation.

Secondly, there is a distinction made in Scripture between Adam and those born under the curse. Man comes into this world now in a fallen state, so a comparison between how Adam was formed and how babies are formed is moot.

What is not moot is the fact that you have adopted a liberal view, and because of this you must incessantly argue what is basic in Scripture.

If what has been said already cannot compel you to be direct about what is written, it is doubtful anything can.

You still ignore the simple fact that if the baby dies, the offender's own life is forfeit. That creates an equality between the life that is in the womb and the life of the offender.

That's just the fact that will destroy the liberal, child murdering doctrine of Liberals.


God bless.

God formED Adam.
God forms all others.

My view concerning Scripture is not political.
My view is based on Scripture.

You make a false statement.
I have said repeatedly; if a pregnant woman is injured by an other and the baby is delivered and lives, the husband of the woman determines the culprits punishment. If the baby is delivered and dies because of the injury caused the culprits punishment is death.

No it does not create any equality of a fetus in the womb. The scenario is pursuant to life for life, only after the fetus is delivered (born) and an independent life separated from the mother.

 

[Happy]

Show me in Scripture where man "receives a living soul." I know of only one text that even comes close to that, and that does not alleviate the problem of the many passages that make it clear that "soul" is a reference to a person in their totality.

And you can save yourself some time in posting repeats of what you have already stated which has been addressed.


God bless.

Again ~

Gen 2
[7] And the LORD God...breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;

God makes "souls".
God imparts "life from Him" into souls.
God imparts "living souls" into man (body)
Man (body) is thus quickened to living.

Man is thus living.
Man continues living BECAUSE of his BLOOD.

Blood stops flowing, man (body) dies.
Living soul departs the mans dying body.
Living soul continues living.
Body is buried and RETURNS to dust.

All "souls" are Gods.
Gods "breath" is life, IS God.

Gods "LIFE" can NEVER be destroyed.
Souls can have life departed from them.
Souls can be destroyed.
Bodies can have life departed from them.
Bodies can be destroyed.

Spiritual spirits can never die.
Spiritual spirits can never be destroyed.

All men born of the earth have a body made by God.
All men born of the earth have a living soul.
All men born of the earth have blood that is the life of their body.
All men born of the earth DO NOT receive a forever living spiritual spirit which lives forever.