The Sky Is NOT Falling!

Excellent post, excellent tone.

 

Over 80% of all African-American children live in families with one-gender homes (tragically, these are one-parent homes). We should most definitely realize that so, so many more children are being exposed to a one-sex home even now. What is the Christian community doing to help these children? What SHOULD we be doing to help them now?

Children are unable to cope with the realities of life no matter what their upbringing is. Being raised by a homosexual couple has shown no more negative consequence than those raised by a heterosexual couple.

In my doctoral marriage and family class of Family Violence, we researched the opposite. Abuse is much lower in homosexual couples than heterosexual couples at large, and MUCH lower than abuse in single-parent households. The data seems to point that it is better for a child to be in a two-parent home where the parents truly love and care for the child than in a two-parent home where they are not taken care of or in a one-parent home.

I believe that the Christian community does need to do research in these areas. Otherwise, they look foolish when they say one thing, and the facts are otherwise.

 

Homosexualities, an official publication of The Institute for Sex Research founded by Alfred Kinsey, Alan Bell, and Martin Weinberg, reported that only ten percent of male homosexuals could be termed as "relatively monogamous" or "relatively less promiscuous." Additional findings showed that 60 percent of male homosexuals had more than 250 lifetime sexual partners, and 28 percent of male homosexuals had more than 1,000 lifetime sexual partners. Another startling fact is that 79 percent admitted that more than half of their sexual partners were strangers. -- Alan P. Bell and Martin S. Weinberg, Homosexualities (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1978), 308.

Notice I document my statistics!

 

RE:

I noticed no scriptural support for this statement.

One day it will fall and the Scriptures plainly state that we should be looking for it...


2 Peter 3
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

I agree with your premise in part that we are lights in a dark world, but we shouldn't forget that one day the sky will fall and this world will go up in smoke.

HankD

 

I really appreciate this post. I have been utterly terrified reading all the threads. It frightens me to the point that it is a paralyzing fear. I used to listen to a lot of Christian radio talk shows about the doom and gloom of our world, and I finally had to stop listening because it was crippling me as a Christian. I don't know if it's just my emotional makeup, but I know it just wasn't good for me to be consumed with all of it.

How do we stay informed and still keep our sanity?

hsmom3

 

Yes, they were. They weren't at the top of the police priority list but, victims were quite often able to have charges brought as a result. Arrests have been made, trials held, and convictions successful.

With a law, there is a recourse for the victim, without a law there isn't.

I am openly opposing such a move and one of the ways is to also openly oppose the little steps which lead to that effect. Your first point justifies a little step yet, your second point condemns the cumulative effect. The sky isn't falling but there are storm clouds gathering. Abortion is just another storm cloud, and when enough storm clouds gather you know what happens.

I applaud your reasonableness and goal of not OVERreacting, yet, I still see the need of some reacting.

 

Victims? Sodomy isn't about victims. If you're talking about involuntary acts, those are still illegal.

Joshua

 

Hsmom3: Of course we do need to stay informed. It can get very depressing and frustrating at times, but that shouldn't decrease our opposition to sin and the spiritual and even physical protection of ourselves, our children, and our fellow Christians.
We must focus and have our hope completely in Christ to keep our sanity. Being humans, it's hard not to despair when men disappoint us, but our ultimate goal is not to please men or make ourselves a more comfortable and tolerable life here on earth, Jesus will and does help us when we learn to trust him and the peace he offers.
But...many Christians don't understand that you don't have to be a "radical" if it goes against how you're made. For example, some people can tolerate looking at abortion pictures and informing themselves completely about it in order to combat it, some people are more sensitive and would be made sick doing it. Those people need to find a "cause" they're better able to tolerate and be more effective in, or focus on a different aspect of it such as passing out information or donating money, clothes, etc..
Overall, our main focus it to teach Jesus and give hope to all. All of us can do that, even if we can't handle getting into all the details of how far down society has plunged.
One of these days it will all be over. These things don't need to frighten us too horribly when we know the end result of this earth and the end result of what happens to us personally. SALVATION! And no matter how horrible this world gets, that will never, ever change. Nobody will every conquer God, and nobody can take away our salvation.
Gina

 

Once in a similair discussion i "made up"
a link:
www.chickenlittle.com
Which has one problem, the link can be
resolved

 

Victim - a sufferer from any destruction, injurious, or adverse action or agency (American College Dictionary)

And before you jump on "sufferer", I mean it in the sense of:

Suffer - to be the object of some action (American College Dictionary).

Sodomy is totally about victims. If there were no victims there would be no problem. Sin always has victims whether they find sin pleasant or not.

 

Amen! Satan is a poor paymaster. When you serve Satan, your reward is eternal damnation and torment.

 

The sky fell a long time ago, all we are waiting for is God's judgment to drop onto it.

 

swaimjsaid - I know of no way to enforce anti-sodomy laws

to which Artimaeus replied - With a law, there is a recourse for the victim, without a law there isn't.

I gotta ask, who's the victim in cases of sodomy, when both are consenting? If my wife sodomizes me, am I a victim? Hardly!!!

 

Sodomy - unnatural sexual intercourse, esp. of one man with another or of a human being with an animal.
(Ameican College Dictionary)

I know there are laws and states which have added acts which are not supported biblically as unnatural. I am sure there is probably a law somewhere that says "French" kissing is unnatural, or holding hands on a Tuesday is unnatural, but, I am just referring to what the Bible specifically defines as "unnatural", i.e. same-sex and beastiality.

The victims are those who are deceived into thinking that this is OK, they are victims of their own crimes. Victims are people who have evil inflicted upon them and it makes no difference whether or not it is consensual. The fact that they are too ungodly to recognize this evil is irrrelevant. The victims are those who gave no consent and would now have no recourse to bring charges for this particular crime.

 

The sodomy laws were against sodomy, whether it was consensual or not. They were enforced a great deal more for non-consensual than for consensual, that is undeniable, but, and this the key to what I was saying, with the law being against sodomy the police COULD and DID bring charges because the act itself was a crime and had society's explicit condemnation. Now that tool is stripped from them and we have society's implicit acceptance of sodomy as, at best, a neutral behavior.

 

First of all, my points were on abuse. Second, your information comes from 1978, which is highly, highly outdated.

Cohabitation is more fragile than marriage, and same-sex couples who do not get along and quarrel violently probably separate even before the thought of having children occurs to them.

"Moreover, reproducing children is a far more complicated project to carry out among homosexuals than among heterosexuals. It is not something that happens accidentally, for instance. Therefore, it is possible that a process of social selection is at work: Those who decide to have children and are then able to achieve this goal may be a select group of more stable and devoted couples than are average heterosexual couples. Consequently, they would not fall prey to deviances, especially spousal abuse, that could endanger their relationship and their children's well-being." (Ambert, 2003).

Another quote:

“Evidence [gleaned from a meta-analysis of 30 studies] shows that children raised in homosexual households showed no differences from other groups, either in sexual orientation or in general mental health or social adjustment,” (Nussbaum, Martha C. “Lesbian and Gay Rights,”)