The stepping stones of Justification part two

[percho]

Having been declared righteous, then, by faith, we have peace toward God through our Lord Jesus Christ, Romans 5:1 YLT

for as through the disobedience of the one man, the many were constituted sinners: so also through the obedience of the one, shall the many be constituted righteous. Romans 5:19 YLT

the law, then, is against the promises of God? -- let it not be! for if a law was given that was able to make alive, truly by law there would have been the righteousness, but the Writing did shut up the whole under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ may be given to those believing. And before the coming of the faith, (? Of Jesus Christ?) under law we were being kept, shut up to the faith (? Of Jesus Christ?) about to be revealed, so that the law became our child-conductor -- to Christ, that by faith (? Of Jesus Christ) we may be declared righteous, and the faith (? Of Jesus Christ?) having come, no more under a child-conductor are we, Gal 3:21-25 YLT

By which are we declared righteous? The obedience of the one, Jesus or by the faith of Jesus Christ?

Or something we drum up from within ourselves? Am I wrong in assuming, of Jesus Christ, following faith above?

How is the obedience of the one relative to, before the coming of the faith and the faith having come?

How is, " How is the obedience of the one relative to, before the coming of the faith and the faith having come?, relative to Rom 6:14 for sin over you shall not have lordship, for ye are not under law (the schoolmaster), but under grace.

 

[Van]

Romans 5:1 (NASB)
Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

So the verse is thought in the vast majority of versions to indicate some accomplished through or by means of faith, not a declaration. (Here are the versions that mistranslate the word meaning in my opinion, CSB, HCSB, NET, ABPE, and YLT.)

And some of the versions that go with justification by means of faith are: NIV, NLT, ESV, NASB KJV, NKJV, and about twenty more.

Romans 5:19, NASB says the many were made righteous, not declared righteous. Even YLT say constituted righteous, not declared righteous. And scripture refers to how we are made righteous, by the washing of regeneration, thus when we are born anew in Christ we are righteous.

 

[percho]

who was delivered up because of our offences, and was raised up because of our being declared righteous. Having been declared righteous, then, by (out of) faith, we have peace toward God through our Lord Jesus Christ, YLT


He who was delivered over because of our transgressions, and was raised because of our justification. Therefore, having been justified by faith, [fn] we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, NASB


IMHO it is definitely a declaration to the last verse of chapter 4 and also shows that, the faith relative to righteousness/justification, is pre resurrection and the very reason of resurrection.

Is, the faith, out of which we can be made (G1096 2 Cor 5:20) righteousness of God, the obedient death of the Son of God?

Or something else?

 

[Van]

who was delivered up because of our offences, and was raised up because of our being declared righteous. Having been declared righteous, then, by (out of) faith, we have peace toward God through our Lord Jesus Christ, YLT


He who was delivered over because of our transgressions, and was raised because of our justification. Therefore, having been justified by faith, [fn] we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, NASB


IMHO it is definitely a declaration to the last verse of chapter 4 and also shows that, the faith relative to righteousness/justification, is pre resurrection and the very reason of resurrection.

Is, the faith, out of which we can be made (G1096 2 Cor 5:20) righteousness of God, the obedient death of the Son of God?

Or something else?

1) You continue to cite the mistranslation of the Greek word, meaning made righteous or justified. You ignore the washing of regeneration which is how we are made righteous.

2) There is no mention of any declaration (rhema or logos) in the last verse of Romans 4.

3) The faith in view is the faith of individual Romans, 20 or more years after Christ's resurrection.

4) The resurrection indicates God accepted Christ's sacrifice, because if Christ is not risen, our faith is in vain.

5) Faith is not mentioned in 2 Corinthians 5:20. Neither is G1096 found in the verse.

6) The Greek word "made" in Romans 5:19 (G2525) means to make, render or constitute something as something. Thus when we are born anew in Christ, we are made righteous.

 

[percho]

1) You continue to cite the mistranslation of the Greek word, meaning made righteous or justified. You ignore the washing of regeneration which is how we are made righteous.

2) There is no mention of any declaration (rhema or logos) in the last verse of Romans 4.

3) The faith in view is the faith of individual Romans, 20 or more years after Christ's resurrection.

4) The resurrection indicates God accepted Christ's sacrifice, because if Christ is not risen, our faith is in vain.

5) Faith is not mentioned in 2 Corinthians 5:20. Neither is G1096 found in the verse.

6) The Greek word "made" in Romans 5:19 (G2525) means to make, render or constitute something as something. Thus when we are born anew in Christ, we are made righteous.

Typo 5:21 G1096 for made

1) You continue to cite the mistranslation of the Greek word, meaning made righteous or justified. You ignore the washing of regeneration which is how we are made righteous.

2) There is no mention of any declaration (rhema or logos) in the last verse of Romans 4.

3) The faith in view is the faith of individual Romans, 20 or more years after Christ's resurrection.

4) The resurrection indicates God accepted Christ's sacrifice, because if Christ is not risen, our faith is in vain.

5) Faith is not mentioned in 2 Corinthians 5:20. Neither is G1096 found in the verse.

6) The Greek word "made" in Romans 5:19 (G2525) means to make, render or constitute something as something. Thus when we are born anew in Christ, we are made righteous.

Typo on 2 Cor 5:20 should have been 5:21. Never the less:


NASB Rom. 5:8,9 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified [fn]by His blood (in the blood of Him), we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him.

NASB 4:28, 5:1 He who was delivered over (To Death) because of our transgressions, and was raised because of our justification. Therefore (Ties what is about to be said back to what was said), having been justified by faith (out of faith), [fn]we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

Please show me where, all of that, is not, of Christ and some part of, it, is, of us?

Is not, in the blood of Him and out of faith, relative to the obedient death of Him and by which man can be justified regardless of what man thinks about that?

 

[Van]

2Co 5:21
He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become G1096 the righteousness of God in Him.

So again, being declared righteous is no where to be found!!!!

And "faith" is not mentioned in 2 Corinthians 5:21, so your question needs another reference.

No need to go on referencing more verses, try to make sense of your prior posts first.