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This study explains who the 144,000 chosen are, and what the seal on their foreheads symbolizes. The study can be found in English here The True Identity of the 144,000 of the Book of Revelation | Wisdom of God or in Spanish here La Verdadera Identidad de los 144.000 del Libro de Apocalipsis | Sabiduria de Dios . Let us begin a discussion on these matters.

 

Says the man who borrows at interest from Gentiles in violation of the Law.

 

Most of you don't like or want to know this, "many are called, few are chosen", which is why it is so difficult for many of you to realize who the 144,000 are.

 

Then by all means enlighten us with your scriptures to prove to the contrary, you who are so seemingly wise.

 

Blah blah blah, nothing.

 

How am I to defend when you haven't even provided scriptures nor valid reasons to prove to the contrary? All you are saying is your belief that the passages in the quoted from the gospels/epistles cannot connect with the passages in Revelation, no scriptures, no reasons. My guess is what I said, you just don't want it to, because knowing that so few are chosen is frightful for anyone who is clearly not knowledgeable in the Lord, for believing in this also requires understanding in other matters, like predestination. I have stated these passages connect with each other, quoted the scriptures, and even provided theological reasons why this must be. In a court of law, I would win, you would lose, because you have nothing.

 

I already did sir, you're asking me to redo something I've already done in the study. The "seal of the holy spirit" mentioned in the epistles is the "seal of the 144,000" mentioned in Revelation, I have just made one connection, and from Revelation being a book of symbols, which are interpreted using scripture, it is not so difficult to make this educated and sound connection. Now, you are more than welcome to provide your own connection, that will perhaps disprove mine, but I doubt you will, because I am right, and you are wrong. But by all means, try. This whole time you haven't tried at all, but just keep saying "no!", no different than a child who is told the sky is blue and just says "no!" for no apparent reason.

 

Quoting the scriptures themselves is sufficient to prove a relation between scriptures, no different than, "thou shall not murder" in the Law, related to "murders will not inherit the kingdom of God" in the epistles. Both are obviously related, there doesn't need to be an extensive study with "proofs" and "evidences" to relate both scriptures. The seal, "sphragizó" in the Greek, mentioned in the epistles is related to the seal, "sphragizó" again, mentioned in Revelation, without a doubt. Obviously Revelation is a book of symbols, so a literal indwelling of the holy spirit (epistles) can figuratively fulfill a seal on the forehead (Revelation).

 

You have still not offered any explanation yourself, except to try to discredit the truth, even trying to discredit me personally as "having no education", even though you've never met me to know what education I've had, or not had, to try to discredit what I am saying. There's nothing I can say or do to make you believe, even though I've already provided scriptures correlating them to each other, and this is because you simply do not want to believe. You are no different than,

“‘We played the flute for you, and you did not dance; we sang a dirge, and you did not mourn.’ (Matthew 11:17 [ESV])

Jesus Christ came eating and drinking, and they complained about him for being a glutton. And John came not eating and drinking, and they complained about him and said he had a demon. Just like the Pharisees, there's nothing I can do or say to make you believe, because you don't want to.

Let me ask you this, because clearly we will not agree on this topic, do you believe God has chosen who will be saved? Yes or no.

 

I asked you a question, "Let me ask you this, because clearly we will not agree on this topic, do you believe God has chosen who will be saved? Yes or no." I cannot argue about the 144,000 with someone who does not understand predestination. It is like teaching a 1 year old calculus.