Pipiripi
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The mainstream teaching on the two witnesses of Revelation teaches that they will be literal people sent down from heaven to preach to the world for a literal 1260 days, or 3 and a half years. And the mainstream view is that the two last day witnesses will be either Moses, Enoch or Elijah. But we follow only the truth not the crowd, whether it is popular or not. Now one thing we must remember when studying the book of Revelation is that it is full of symbolic language. So we are not to automatically take everything as literal.
Who are the beasts of Revelation 13? Are they literal beasts forcing people to take the mark? Who is the whore of Babylon? Is it a literal woman riding a literal beast? No, they are symbolic, and point to something else, just like a lot of Revelation does.
Let's start off by exposing a couple of BIG problems with this mainstream view of Moses, Enoch or Elijah being the two witnesses. Where are Moses, Enoch and Elijah right now? They are in heaven with God and Jesus Christ right? So what does that mean? It means the are now in their glorified IMMORTAL state. Please understand that important point. No one can dwell in heaven, in the presence of Jesus and God the Father without being in a glorified immortal state. And yet what does Revelation 11 say will happen to the witnesses?
Revelation 11:7-8
So Revelation confirms that the last day two witnesses will be KILLED. This proves beyond doubt that witnesses CANNOT be either Moses, Enoch or Elijah, because they are now immortal and cannot be killed.
Another problem is that Revelation 11 says FIRE comes from the mouths of the two witnesses to devour their enemies. So if the witnesses are literal people like Moses and Elijah, then are they going to breath fire like DRAGONS to kill people? Is this how God works now? Sounds more like a Hollywood movie to me, rather than the true Word of God! I hope you see the problem with this meanstream teaching. These witnesses of Revelation 11 must be someone, or rather some- THING else. Remember, Revelation is FULL of symbolic language.
Friend, don't let the above thought about 'more like hollywood' with 'fire breathing people' escape your mind, because satan is going to use some amazing 'signs and wonders' to deceive in the last days. And what is one of those deceiving 'wonders'? ...Revelation 13:13.
Moses and Elijah represent the Word of God. Moses represent the Law and Elijah represents the prophets. Jesus confirmed that He did not come to destroy the law and the prophets, but to fulfill them. The word fulfill meaning to exalt, to bring a clear understanding.
So could the 'law and the prophets' (the Word of God) be killed? Symbolically, yes! And it happened in France during the French Revolution as the Papal reign was coming to an end towards the end of the prophecies 1260 year period. SEE THE FOLLOWING QUOTES:
" The French convention dressed an ass, loaded it with the symbols of Christianity, and tied the Old and New Testaments to it's tail. It was then led in mock procession, the crowd piled books of devotion into heaps and burned them to ashes, amid blasphemous shouts. A prostitute was enthroned as 'goddess of reason'." L.E.Froom, Prophetic Fait of our Fathers, Vol 2, Page 738.
"French stands apart in the worlds history as a single state which by the decree of her legislative assembly, pronounced there was no God." Blackwoods Magazine Nov. 1870
The rest of this 2 witnesses I will bring it down in our lovely and friendly debate.
God bless.
Who are the beasts of Revelation 13? Are they literal beasts forcing people to take the mark? Who is the whore of Babylon? Is it a literal woman riding a literal beast? No, they are symbolic, and point to something else, just like a lot of Revelation does.
Let's start off by exposing a couple of BIG problems with this mainstream view of Moses, Enoch or Elijah being the two witnesses. Where are Moses, Enoch and Elijah right now? They are in heaven with God and Jesus Christ right? So what does that mean? It means the are now in their glorified IMMORTAL state. Please understand that important point. No one can dwell in heaven, in the presence of Jesus and God the Father without being in a glorified immortal state. And yet what does Revelation 11 say will happen to the witnesses?
Revelation 11:7-8
So Revelation confirms that the last day two witnesses will be KILLED. This proves beyond doubt that witnesses CANNOT be either Moses, Enoch or Elijah, because they are now immortal and cannot be killed.
Another problem is that Revelation 11 says FIRE comes from the mouths of the two witnesses to devour their enemies. So if the witnesses are literal people like Moses and Elijah, then are they going to breath fire like DRAGONS to kill people? Is this how God works now? Sounds more like a Hollywood movie to me, rather than the true Word of God! I hope you see the problem with this meanstream teaching. These witnesses of Revelation 11 must be someone, or rather some- THING else. Remember, Revelation is FULL of symbolic language.
Friend, don't let the above thought about 'more like hollywood' with 'fire breathing people' escape your mind, because satan is going to use some amazing 'signs and wonders' to deceive in the last days. And what is one of those deceiving 'wonders'? ...Revelation 13:13.
Moses and Elijah represent the Word of God. Moses represent the Law and Elijah represents the prophets. Jesus confirmed that He did not come to destroy the law and the prophets, but to fulfill them. The word fulfill meaning to exalt, to bring a clear understanding.
So could the 'law and the prophets' (the Word of God) be killed? Symbolically, yes! And it happened in France during the French Revolution as the Papal reign was coming to an end towards the end of the prophecies 1260 year period. SEE THE FOLLOWING QUOTES:
" The French convention dressed an ass, loaded it with the symbols of Christianity, and tied the Old and New Testaments to it's tail. It was then led in mock procession, the crowd piled books of devotion into heaps and burned them to ashes, amid blasphemous shouts. A prostitute was enthroned as 'goddess of reason'." L.E.Froom, Prophetic Fait of our Fathers, Vol 2, Page 738.
"French stands apart in the worlds history as a single state which by the decree of her legislative assembly, pronounced there was no God." Blackwoods Magazine Nov. 1870
The rest of this 2 witnesses I will bring it down in our lovely and friendly debate.
God bless.