There is no Salvation outside the Church

[webdog]

Originally posted by UUall:
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I believe there is no salvation outside the Church. How about you?

There is no salvation outside of Christ. The church is irrelevant in salvation, as the church is composed of those already "in Christ". </font>[/QUOTE]SAVED? Seems according to scripture, you are SAVED to the kingdom. The 1000 yr period of rest. What happens after that? How many books are opened? </font>[/QUOTE]
You are SAVED from hell, and eternal torment, and this only in Christ, not in a church. I'm not sure what you mean we are "saved to the kingdom".

 

[Claudia_T]

Its another one of those people who believe to be eternally saved and to go to heaven is different from being saved "to the kingdom"... some sort of millenium thing...

Ive seen three different ones on here so far that believe that way.

 

[myfavoritmartin]

Originally posted by nate:
I believe there is no salvation outside the Church. How about you?

Church meaning body of Christ!

Not some organization.

There was a time when I felt the Catholic church were true and wished it weren't, now I find myself wishing it were true and fearing it isn't.
Progress?

 

[DeclareHim]

If you are referring to an organization as MFM just mentioned then no. However if you mean Church=family of God then yes I amen that statement.

[ May 24, 2006, 08:20 PM: Message edited by: DeclareHim ]

 

[mman]

Originally posted by nate:
I believe there is no salvation outside the Church. How about you?

Christ is Savior of the body (Eph 5:23), and the body is the church (Eph 1:22-23), therefore Christ is Savior of the church.

The Lord adds the saved to the church (Acts 2:47), therefore, ALL the saved are in the church, or should I say, make up the church.

One cannot be saved and outside of the church. If that were true, then Jesus isn't doing His job (Acts 2:47).

 

[KellyWhite]

 

[KellyWhite]

Originally posted by nate:
I believe there is no salvation outside the Church. How about you?

Sorry, Nate. You're wrong.

There is MOST DEFINITELY salvation outside the Catholic Church.

Ask any Catholic and they will tell you this. It's only some Protestants who believe otherwise.

 

[KellyWhite]

Originally posted by PamelaK:
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

So, what's your answer?

Do you believe there is salvation outside the Catholic church?

 

[Stinker2]

I believe there is no salvation outside the Church. How about you?

Many understand this in only a materialistic manner. That the church is composed of people (Acts 2:47), has offices (Eph.4:11) (1Tim.3:1,8) and so believe that the entrance into this physical organization is water baptism, and the passages that speak of baptism 'into' must mean physical baptism (Rom.6:1-4) (Gal.3:27) (Col.2:11-12).

 

[billwald]

There is no salvation outside of election. God can save anyone based on Christ's merit. the details are God's problem.

 

[Perry Reid]

You must be water baptized by the authority of Jesus to have your sins washed away. Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16, 1 Peter 3:21, Col 2:12.

 

[Stinker2]

You must be water baptized by the authority of Jesus to have your sins washed away. Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16, 1 Peter 3:21, Col 2:12.

When Jesus and His immediate disciples were water baptizing His converts, John the Baptist was water baptizing his. They all were baptizing the converts with the baptism of repentance. (Mt.3:11) (Mk.1:4)

It is noticeable that on and after the day of Pentecost that the only one's needing to be re-baptized were the converts of John the Baptist. (Acts 18:25, 19:1-5)

Acts 22:16 is a figure of speech and is a parallel passage to 1Pet.3:21

They both are an appeal to God for a good conscience.

 

[BobRyan]

Christ's disciples were only baptized by John according to scripture. No indication at all that they were rebaptized.

 

[Mishelly]

I have something to say to you. First, you do not ask the church for forgiveness, you ask Christ Jesus, you learn through the Word of God the Bible, your blueprint in life. I would hate to think just because you do not attend a church that you can not be forgivin. That is not what Jesus says. I forgot what the Word says but it goes like this. "There is no other way to get to the Kingdom of Heaven except through Me, any one who thinks different decieves himself." See God and for that matter Jesus wants you to be around people who love Him. He does say "Where two or more are gathered in my name there I am amoung them.' With that if you are talking and praising God with someone else there He is amongst you. sometimes Churches say they are the church of Christ or whatever when they are really not. I would much rather be with one person who believes in Christ than a whole church who does not.

raise: I agree with you completely - I want fellowship but if it means being with false teachers then I will keep searching the web :type: :type: