"This is my body"

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

What did Christ mean with saying, "This, is my body"?


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[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

I cannot tell you how helpful, revealing and fruitful, I have found the Baptist Board discussions to the subjects of interest to me personally.

The now closed topic of the 'impossibility of Holy Communion' has not yet brought certain questions an answer. This is one. I hope you residents are going to help me find a better understanding.

 

[Agnus_Dei]

What did Christ mean with saying, "This, is my body"?


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What do you think Christ meant when He took bread and said...take eat, this IS my body...?
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[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

What do you think Christ meant when He took bread and said...take eat, this IS my body...?
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GE:

Can the bread then, be taught anything? (Eph1:4:12)

How are WE, the Body of Christ but don't eat ourselves? (1Cor12:27)

As for Lk22:19. A perfectly legitimate translation (and literal at that), would be:
"Then taking a loaf having given thanks, He broke (it) then gave to them saying: This the body of mine is for you being given; unto my memory do (eat) ye!"
The reference clearly is not to the bread as the body of Christ; but to the body of Christ Himself being broken for the disciples; eating the bread, they should remeber that!

 

[Agnus_Dei]

Can the bread then, be taught anything? (Eph1:4:12)
How are WE, the Body of Christ but don't eat ourselves? (1Cor12:27)

Just what exactly is your point here?

As for Lk22:19. A perfectly legitimate translation (and literal at that), would be:
"Then taking a loaf having given thanks, He broke (it) then gave to them saying: This the body of mine is for you being given; unto my memory do (eat) ye!"
The reference clearly is not to the bread as the body of Christ; but to the body of Christ Himself being broken for the disciples; eating the bread, they should remeber that!

The word remembrance that you and others seem to get hung up on doesn’t just mean to remember an event. The Jews of Jesus’ time would’ve used the term in context to mean: to make a reality present, just as the Jews did every Passover.
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[DQuixote]

The bread and the wine represent the body and blood of Christ. They are not the body and blood of Christ. We participate in the observance in remembrance of His sacrifice - to make the reality of His sacrifice real to us, spiritually. It touches us, spiritually. It is bread and wine that enter the stomach, not flesh and blood. No "Pope" can decree otherwise. The Gospel stands as written. It does not require the addition of tradition in the form of "revelations" or decrees.

 

[JamieinNH]

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[billwald]

The NT writers were using Greek logic. "Is" made perfect sense to them. There are several senses to something's being. I forget the exact sequence.

 

[Eliyahu]

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You are quite correct while GE and I were Comp Blinded.
This must be addressed to GE and to others who have difficulity with the visibility.

 

[bmerr]

Gerhard,

bmerr here. I think reason demands Jesus was speaking figuratively, as when He referred to Herod as a "fox" (Luke 13:32). Otherwise we are forced to believe that Rome had a quadruped ruling over one of its' provinces... I don't think so, either.

In Christ,

bmerr

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

Originally Posted by Gerhard Ebersoehn
Can the bread then, be taught anything? (Eph1:4:12)
How are WE, the Body of Christ but don't eat ourselves? (1Cor12:27)
Just what exactly is your point here?

GE:

You say Christ's Body is the bread; Paul says here the Church (Believers) is Christ's Body. By your logic then the Church eats itself when it eats the bread.

You should ask yourself rather what you mean with the bread being Christ's Body.

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

Originally Posted by Gerhard Ebersoehn
As for Lk22:19. A perfectly legitimate translation (and literal at that), would be:
"Then taking a loaf having given thanks, He broke (it) then gave to them saying: This the body of mine is for you being given; unto my memory do (eat) ye!"
The reference clearly is not to the bread as the body of Christ; but to the body of Christ Himself being broken for the disciples; eating the bread, they should remeber that!

Agnus Dei:

The word remembrance that you and others seem to get hung up on doesn’t just mean to remember an event. The Jews of Jesus’ time would’ve used the term in context to mean: to make a reality present, just as the Jews did every Passover.

GE:

The word 'remember' is a word Jesus put there with obvious reason. In this post I take this word not so seriously though. The words I take seriously rather are, "THIS IS ...". Jesus refers to Himself the Bread of life to be broken for those His own, gives them of the loaf of bread, and says, "Eat ... in remembrance of ME ..."

I cannot say it clearer.

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

The bread and the wine represent the body and blood of Christ. They are not the body and blood of Christ. We participate in the observance in remembrance of His sacrifice - to make the reality of His sacrifice real to us, spiritually. It touches us, spiritually. It is bread and wine that enter the stomach, not flesh and blood. No "Pope" can decree otherwise. The Gospel stands as written. It does not require the addition of tradition in the form of "revelations" or decrees.

GE:

How true!
My Confession of Faith reads, ".... as BY FAITH partaking ...." So did Calvin describe it.

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

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Jamie

Have tried to but as you can see, failed. I'll try again next time. I'm so stupid with this machine!