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This judge is a joke

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Jon-Marc

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Beards cannot be worn in the military. If a Muslim wants to be in the US military, he should remove his beard or be removed from the military. However, with 19 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of premeditated attempted murder, he won't be in the military any longer and will hopefully be in prison for the rest of his life. However, if he is guilty of the crimes, he should be executed.
 
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targus

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FAL, didn't you start an identical thread just a couple of weeks ago?

Why are you posting the same thing again?
 
Sapper Woody

Sapper Woody

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Jon-Marc said:
Beards cannot be worn in the military. If a Muslim wants to be in the US military, he should remove his beard or be removed from the military. However, with 19 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of premeditated attempted murder, he won't be in the military any longer and will hopefully be in prison for the rest of his life. However, if he is guilty of the crimes, he should be executed.
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I am not entirely sure, but from what I understand, if convicted in a military court, he will technically be a part of the military until either his execution or the sentence is over (in this case, life). However, time spent in a military prison does not count towards retirement, and your payment is suspended during your stay in the prison.

I find the fact that he refuses to shave his beard for religious reasons to be absolutely a retarded claim. He had no problem keeping it shaved while he was planning this crime.

@FAL: So I understand, your opinion is that the judge should have ordered him force shaved already, instead of just fining him for contempt, correct? If this is your opinion, then I agree. He should have been force shaved the first time it happened. However, I don't think the judge himself should be replaced based on this. Are there other reasons why you think the judge should be dismissed?
 
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freeatlast

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Sapper Woody said:
I am not entirely sure, but from what I understand, if convicted in a military court, he will technically be a part of the military until either his execution or the sentence is over (in this case, life). However, time spent in a military prison does not count towards retirement, and your payment is suspended during your stay in the prison.

I find the fact that he refuses to shave his beard for religious reasons to be absolutely a retarded claim. He had no problem keeping it shaved while he was planning this crime.

@FAL: So I understand, your opinion is that the judge should have ordered him force shaved already, instead of just fining him for contempt, correct? If this is your opinion, then I agree. He should have been force shaved the first time it happened. However, I don't think the judge himself should be replaced based on this. Are there other reasons why you think the judge should be dismissed?
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Woody you are correct. The judge should have had him forced shaved from the start, no second chance. The fact that he has not proves to me that he is not capable of leading and making the tuff decisions in such a proceeding making the military look weak and making it look like the defendant has more authority then the court, so the judge should be removed and replaced with someone who will not be intimidated. There is way more involved here then trying a man for mass murder and this judge evidently cannot see it.
 
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Jon-Marc

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Sapper Woody said:
Are there other reasons why you think the judge should be dismissed?
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I didn't say and don't think the judge should be dismissed. The man should have been removed from active service when he refused to shave, and then tried and sentenced accordingly for his crime.
 
Squire Robertsson

Squire Robertsson

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The problem is if he's discharged then he has top go to a civilian court.

It's a conundrum. Because, about the only action the judge can take is to have the defendant forcibly shaved and have his hair cut. Personally, I don't want pictures of this goniff's razor cut face plastered all over the place.
Jon-Marc said:
I didn't say and don't think the judge should be dismissed. The man should have been removed from active service when he refused to shave, and then tried and sentenced accordingly for his crime.
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Don

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Squire Robertsson said:
The problem is if he's discharged then he has top go to a civilian court.

It's a conundrum. Because, about the only action the judge can take is to have the defendant forcibly shaved and have his hair cut. Personally, I don't want pictures of this goniff's razor cut face plastered all over the place.
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Two things: if they're going to force shave him (and they're smart), they'll drug him, not attempt to hold him down. Second, the judge knows exactly what's going on. There will be an appeal of the verdict and sentence; that's a given. The judge is doing his best to ensure this murderer doesn't have any means to have the conviction overturned for something silly.
 
Squire Robertsson

Squire Robertsson

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Sounds about right to me. There is no way in this world this case will turn into a drum head courts martial.
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Two things: if they're going to force shave him (and they're smart), they'll drug him, not attempt to hold him down. Second, the judge knows exactly what's going on. There will be an appeal of the verdict and sentence; that's a given. The judge is doing his best to ensure this murderer doesn't have any means to have the conviction overturned for something silly.
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