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To the Shame of Republicans

Benjamin

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I’m sorry to say that I’m ashamed of many in the Republican party turning the stay at home initiative meant to save lives into a political bandwagon issue to devalue the social separating that will unquestionably buy us the time to save many lives. I dread the thought that the same party known to fight over the values for the lives of the unborn may also be known for their willingness to sacrifice our old and sick rather than sacrifice some of what’s in their wallets. I hate the thought that the Republican party might be known for their poor arguments that lead to denial of the seriousness of COVID-19 and their alligator tears over that people will commit suicide if Mamma’s pocketbook is affected. This is not to say that the Democrats wouldn’t egg us on over these political narratives and threaten our liberty just to manipulate some Republicans to keep us on this destructive path. Why wouldn’t they take advantage of it? They can make the Republicans look like heartless fools which I’m ashamed to say seems to have some truth to it during this trying time, people aren’t dumb and see through the fake news no matter which side it comes from. And God forbid that we end up in an uncontrollable resurgence of COVID-19 because not only will many die but the Democrats will put the death toll squarely on the shoulders of the Republicans who would not abide by the measures that our top experts have said is a necessary precaution. The sad part is that this kind of behavior actually helps make the case for the Democrats that we need more government rule to be safe as a society. That said, I don't bow to these punk threats from Democrats to take my liberty, not happening, no fear!

I’m a red blooded Republican through and through and a very active defender of President Trump, who I think is doing a good job leading us through this, but I am not one to let hyper political activism impair my thinking enough to make me forgo the value of lives or that I have to choose a side based on what I would call a false dilemma fallacy that we must fully open up the economy or we will lose our liberty and our economy will be irreversibly damaged. Some of the behavior I see from Republicans, granted – the behavior I see mostly on message boards and social media sites, is doing damage to the political party that I love. On a positive note, I don’t see as much of this from people I know or in face to face discussions, but I do I see a potentially very destructive trend to disregard lifesaving precautions that is growing because of what is said on these venues.

Although, I am a member of the Republican party I guess when my mother asked me if my friend jumped off a cliff if I would too it must have taught me not to be a follower of those doing foolish things regardless of peer pressure from those I would generally consider my friends.

Now speaking of cliffs, here I am thinking about the insult from Democrats who insinuate that the Republicans that would push grandma off that cliff to hold on to their $$$ while being ashamed to witness some of those in the party I proudly belong to seeming perfectly willing to do that exact thing.

Thankfully, I do have a choice apart from the weak links in my political party and I believe our Republican President is using common sense and values lives greatly and will not to get wrapped up into being pushed into sacrificing many lives over the hyper political rhetoric coming from his and my own party. I just hope and pray that the Democrats never end up with the evidence that they need to demonstrate that the Republican party was the cause of many deaths because they valued their $$$ over the lives of the people of this country. I do not and will never put a monetary price on lives and am confident that we will overcome the financial hardship with our leader has the guts and morals to make his decisions based on the priority of life and not in fear based on having to make some temporary economical sacrifices to accomplish saving these lives.
 

Benjamin

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And you believe that Republicans care what you are ashamed of?
Is your typical one-line comeback supposed to mean something to me?

BTW, you are one of the worst I know of for basing his thoughts off of hyper political narratives. Thanks for the example.
 
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xlsdraw

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We are just pilgrims passing through. God is Sovereign All the Time, including now. And I suspect that the pilgrims are on the verge of departure. It will be the "humanistic, coexistence, many ways to heaven crowd" that will soon have their True Christianless utopian opportunity that they lust for. Too their surprise, it will be the worst time in human history. Even so come Lord Jesus .
 

Reynolds

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I’m sorry to say that I’m ashamed of many in the Republican party turning the stay at home initiative meant to save lives into a political bandwagon issue to devalue the social separating that will unquestionably buy us the time to save many lives. I dread the thought that the same party known to fight over the values for the lives of the unborn may also be known for their willingness to sacrifice our old and sick rather than sacrifice some of what’s in their wallets. I hate the thought that the Republican party might be known for their poor arguments that lead to denial of the seriousness of COVID-19 and their alligator tears over that people will commit suicide if Mamma’s pocketbook is affected. This is not to say that the Democrats wouldn’t egg us on over these political narratives and threaten our liberty just to manipulate some Republicans to keep us on this destructive path. Why wouldn’t they take advantage of it? They can make the Republicans look like heartless fools which I’m ashamed to say seems to have some truth to it during this trying time, people aren’t dumb and see through the fake news no matter which side it comes from. And God forbid that we end up in an uncontrollable resurgence of COVID-19 because not only will many die but the Democrats will put the death toll squarely on the shoulders of the Republicans who would not abide by the measures that our top experts have said is a necessary precaution. The sad part is that this kind of behavior actually helps make the case for the Democrats that we need more government rule to be safe as a society. That said, I don't bow to these punk threats from Democrats to take my liberty, not happening, no fear!

I’m a red blooded Republican through and through and a very active defender of President Trump, who I think is doing a good job leading us through this, but I am not one to let hyper political activism impair my thinking enough to make me forgo the value of lives or that I have to choose a side based on what I would call a false dilemma fallacy that we must fully open up the economy or we will lose our liberty and our economy will be irreversibly damaged. Some of the behavior I see from Republicans, granted – the behavior I see mostly on message boards and social media sites, is doing damage to the political party that I love. On a positive note, I don’t see as much of this from people I know or in face to face discussions, but I do I see a potentially very destructive trend to disregard lifesaving precautions that is growing because of what is said on these venues.

Although, I am a member of the Republican party I guess when my mother asked me if my friend jumped off a cliff if I would too it must have taught me not to be a follower of those doing foolish things regardless of peer pressure from those I would generally consider my friends.

Now speaking of cliffs, here I am thinking about the insult from Democrats who insinuate that the Republicans that would push grandma off that cliff to hold on to their $$$ while being ashamed to witness some of those in the party I proudly belong to seeming perfectly willing to do that exact thing.

Thankfully, I do have a choice apart from the weak links in my political party and I believe our Republican President is using common sense and values lives greatly and will not to get wrapped up into being pushed into sacrificing many lives over the hyper political rhetoric coming from his and my own party. I just hope and pray that the Democrats never end up with the evidence that they need to demonstrate that the Republican party was the cause of many deaths because they valued their $$$ over the lives of the people of this country. I do not and will never put a monetary price on lives and am confident that we will overcome the financial hardship with our leader has the guts and morals to make his decisions based on the priority of life and not in fear based on having to make some temporary economical sacrifices to accomplish saving these lives.
We are not talking about a few lost dollars. We are facing a Depression equal to The Great Depression if we dont re-open soon.
 

Adonia

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We are not talking about a few lost dollars. We are facing a Depression equal to The Great Depression if we dont re-open soon.

If 20% of the people are unemployed, that means 80% are still working. It seems most of those without a job were employed at small businesses. As a long haul truck driver, we have not slowed down at all. I am picking up all kinds of different freight from businesses that are still open and staffed with their regular workforce.
 

Reynolds

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If 20% of the people are unemployed, that means 80% are still working. It seems most of those without a job were employed at small businesses. As a long haul truck driver, we have not slowed down at all. I am picking up all kinds of different freight from businesses that are still open and staffed with their regular workforce.
You are still shipping a lot of old orders. Give it 6 weeks.
 

church mouse guy

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If 20% of the people are unemployed, that means 80% are still working. It seems most of those without a job were employed at small businesses. As a long haul truck driver, we have not slowed down at all. I am picking up all kinds of different freight from businesses that are still open and staffed with their regular workforce.

Truck drivers are great heroes in this pandemic. Where I work, they can use a little lounge with a pop machine, there is hand sanitizer in three or four places for them on the docks, and they have free and full access to a nearby washroom without asking or anything. Our warehouse is warm in the winter and air conditioned in the summer. Our dock workers are quick and kind and there is speedy loading and unloading. There is always a greeting and a farewell.
 

InTheLight

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You are still shipping a lot of old orders. Give it 6 weeks.

Extremely doubtful that truck lines are shipping old orders. We live in the "just in time" inventory age, where retailers and other sellers want inventory delivered on a weekly basis so they don't have to extend cash flow out into the weeks and months. Most ordering of inventory is done electronically on a weekly replenishment basis.

When the stay at home orders went out back in March most retailers cancelled existing orders because they knew they would be closing and there would be no customers in their stores. Drive by any mid to large size shopping mall. They are deserted.
 

xlsdraw

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Truck drivers are great heroes in this pandemic. Where I work, they can use a little lounge with a pop machine, there is hand sanitizer in three or four places for them on the docks, and they have free and full access to a nearby washroom without asking or anything. Our warehouse is warm in the winter and air conditioned in the summer. Our dock workers are quick and kind and there is speedy loading and unloading. There is always a greeting and a farewell.

Very rarely have I encountered such hospitality as you described.
 

church mouse guy

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Very rarely have I encountered such hospitality as you described.

I know--I hear that truck drivers are having trouble finding washrooms. That's sad. I'll tell you that there are a lot of warehouses in the Indianapolis area on the west side especially near the new airport and so we are a big city for truckers in case that you have never been here. The corporation where I work is blue chip and international so I suppose that they try to do well. The building is a little over 20 years old so that helps. Truckers are heroes in this pandemic because they have worked long hours to keep the public supplied with food and medicine.
 

xlsdraw

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I delivered to US Foods in Boca Raton and Sysco in Riviera Beach this morning. Got in and out of both places much quicker than usual. Camped a half mile from Sysco in Medley, hoping for a first that they might be quick too. They are usually the opposite of quick. I'll deliver there and to a small place in Miami in the morning. Then setup to grab a load of plants in Homestead that goes up to Swedesboro, NJ for delivery Friday morning.

Rates are down some and available loads are not as plentiful as they usually are for this time of year on the reefer freight. Which is what I pull.
 

xlsdraw

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I know--I hear that truck drivers are having trouble finding washrooms. That's sad. I'll tell you that there are a lot of warehouses in the Indianapolis area on the west side especially near the new airport and so we are a big city for truckers in case that you have never been here. The corporation where I work is blue chip and international so I suppose that they try to do well. The building is a little over 20 years old so that helps. Truckers are heroes in this pandemic because they have worked long hours to keep the public supplied with food and medicine.

I'm like Johnny Cash, "I've been everywhere man", many times over. Indy is a frequent crossroads. Should be going through there in 4 or 5 days. Usually pick up out of Swedesboro, NJ going to Minneapolis area. I run 70 to stay off the northern toll roads.
 

Adonia

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Truck drivers are great heroes in this pandemic. Where I work, they can use a little lounge with a pop machine, there is hand sanitizer in three or four places for them on the docks, and they have free and full access to a nearby washroom without asking or anything. Our warehouse is warm in the winter and air conditioned in the summer. Our dock workers are quick and kind and there is speedy loading and unloading. There is always a greeting and a farewell.


I have been to several places of late where they have refused to even let us use the bathroom, let alone the lounge or food areas because of the virus. It does not bother me as I can do everything I need to do right in the truck. From going to the bathroom to whipping up a gourmet meal I have it all figured out.
 

church mouse guy

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I have been to several places of late where they have refused to even let us use the bathroom, let alone the lounge or food areas because of the virus. It does not bother me as I can do everything I need to do right in the truck. From going to the bathroom to whipping up a gourmet meal I have it all figured out.

The fear is insane. I work at a factory and now they are laying off. The Democrats in the factory want the shutdown to continue even if it costs them more jobs. Others are talking about the second wave. Well, we should get N95 masks by fall and we will be like Taiwan--six deaths out of perhaps 25 million people. I am so sick of this shutdown that I would vote Democrat for Governor except the Hoosier Democrats are running Woody Myers, an eccentric long-time director of the Indiana State Board of Health with no political base. The corporation doesn't even blink when truck drivers use the washroom or sit in the waiting areas. We only have a pop machine but if one of them wanted some food from the vending machines, someone could escort him to the employee break area. I only know one person who was sick and no one knows if it was the Chinese Virus or not. They made people stay home 14 days originally but now they say that you can go back if you have no fever.
 

OnlyaSinner

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I delivered to US Foods in Boca Raton and Sysco in Riviera Beach this morning. Got in and out of both places much quicker than usual. Camped a half mile from Sysco in Medley, hoping for a first that they might be quick too. They are usually the opposite of quick. I'll deliver there and to a small place in Miami in the morning. Then setup to grab a load of plants in Homestead that goes up to Swedesboro, NJ for delivery Friday morning.

Rates are down some and available loads are not as plentiful as they usually are for this time of year on the reefer freight. Which is what I pull.
I agree with CMG that truckers are doing yeoman work in keeping the supply chain moving. However, it was "plants/Swedesboro" that intrigued me, as all our grandkids (and their parents, of course) live 10-15 minutes from there, and there's also a huge group of Lucas Nurseries greenhouses in the town where they live.
 

xlsdraw

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I delivered at Produce Junction. Picking up at Ready Pac Foods. Both in Swedesboro. But had to run up to the Blue Beacon and Petro in Bordentown to get the trailer washed out and a couple new drive tires and 3 axle alignment. Took 5 hours to hand load the plant load in Homestead and 9 hours to hand unload the trailer in Swedesboro. The aftermath of the plant load was the most debri I ever seen left from a load. Not sure I'll accept another one of these.
 
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