Top 3 most hateful pastors

i dont think they're saved. true christians dont do that.

they obviously dont have the fruits of the spirit that involve, kindness, gentleness, goodness, self-control, love... etc.

hmm?

 

Lets not let our board become the "pastor attack" forum.

They are pastors of loal churches - if their people accept them who are we to single them out here?

 

I see no useful purpose for this thread and would respectfully ask for it to be closed.

Bro Tony

 

I mostly agree with your sentiment, but does that mean we are not allowed to test and discern who might be a false prophet? Just curious, friend.

 

This Guy



Nuff Said. :smilewinkgrin:

 

Well, since this is still open, I might just comment on the first pastor boasting on his web page that he is a KJB1611 only---then when he posts Scripture---he does even use the 1611 KJV-----the lack of credibility and the hypocrisy throughout his material is overwhelming.

Bro Tony

 

No Tom, but to title a thread "The 3 Most Hateful Pastors" does seem a bit over the top.

 

Wonderful! A thread to hate the haters! So uplifting... glad I stopped by! :thumbs:

 

Just for the heck of it, let's say someone wanted to discuss pastors they believed were hatemongers or whatever...is that discussion even appropriate? Just curious. I know you have time to answer...Spain is beating Ukraine to death :laugh:

 

Perhaps it would be appropriate to discuss the attitude or what seems to be hatefulness to each person? I think where it becomes inappropriate is when names are named and that man is not here to defend his views or to clarify what he was trying to say. OR when we are unwilling to use the context of a public speech he made and determine if its really hateful in a fair and unbiased way.

We all have said things that if taken out of context could be construed as mean or hateful. Most of us in here have also been accused of being mean-spirited when in fact nothing mean was said at all.

Ya know?

But perhaps it would be helpful to some if they knew what the majority of people thought of as really hateful.

 

Mmmmm...Phelps has been told he's hateful...he revels in it.

 

I know there are some who do indeed revel in the label. Some see any opposition as proof that they are "fighting the good fight" and tout it as an evidence of their message being right, or of people just not liking to hear the truth.
Sometimes though, it really is that people don't like to hear the truth. I think much of the time people take preaching personally, like the preacher knows who they are and is personally attacking them.

And I want you to understand too, Im not defending the persons mentioned in the OP in particular, but the discussion has seemed to have gone beyond only them.

 

The discussion is ok, I would say. But the way that you go about it needs to be proper.

Also, are these men hateful of the right things?
It is not wrong to hate evil, in fact it is required. But IMO Phelps has gone way overboard.
I heard him personally once actually. I hope that was the last time.
One other thing to consider is, do they in their hate for sin try to elevate themselvews?
That is a tell tale sign to me.
It would not take a drop more of the blood of Jesus to save fred Phelps than it would take to save a sodomite but for some reason it would seem that Phelps would think so.

 

Hey, you mean, *I* ain't on the list?

:laugh:

 

With Paulson, his apparent obsession with the KJVO myth doesn't make him hateful, but it DOES place his theology and intelligence into question.

I, too, oftencarry a weapon legally that I wouldn't hesitate to use if the personal safety of my family or myself was threatened, but I wouldn't use it in defense of the Bible. The Bible can defend itself quite handily.

Phelps and Winter are radical wing nuts to whom few Christians pay any attention.

 

I just thought of something.

How do you define hateful?

Would you say a pastor that fails to preach the true gospel, and thus leading men astray and to eternal damnation, would that not be hateful? Even if on the outside they seemed to be a "nice guy"?

Just a thought.

 

agree. and

 

....agree.

 

As others have expressed, I can see no good in this thread but it brings out the worst in us. It is quarrelsome and personally vindictive. There is nothing edifying or good here. We are not debating issues, ideas or even behaviors but we are villifying men who may or may not deserve it. Regardless, the thread has no useful purpose. No, it is not the exposure of false prophets. False prophet are exposed by having their doctrine and teachings refuted. This is denigrating men. I respectfully request that this thread be closed. Thank you for your consideration.