Translation ERROR in KJV bible.

Rooster · Aug 22, 2004

Originally posted by StefanM:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Rooster:
is it wrong to defend my belifes how I learned them , is everyones belifes better than mine?

Yes, because your beliefs are based on slanderous lies. [/QUOTE]Whatever.

Rooster · Aug 22, 2004

I am officialy leaving this thread because people are getting " reedickuluss", and I have to get ready for church. Good night, and God Bless.

HankD · Aug 22, 2004

In England, the "Authorised Version" is subject to a perpetual Crown Copyright held by the British government. This is because the printing of the KJV was originally covered by Letters Patent which means that to this day it comes under the Crown prerogative section of copyright law in the United Kingdom. It was protected by this means due to its status there as an official document of the established Church of England. The British government licenses all printings of the text in England, typically by designating one printer as the authorised publisher; other printers must obtain a sublicence from that one.

Found online at :

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/King_James_Version

HankD

HankD · Aug 22, 2004

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Crown Copyright:

The United Kingdom
Crown copyright applies to all works produced by the British Government subject to the condition that the qualification "Where a work is made by Her Majesty or by an officer or servant of the Crown in the course of his duties" is met. The Crown can also have copyrights assigned to it. There is also a small class of materials where the Crown claims copyright due to Letters Patent.This material includes the King James Bible and the Book of Common Prayer.

Found online at : http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Crown_Copyright

HankD

Dr. Bob · Aug 22, 2004

Your confusing the young'uns with facts, Hank. Thanks for the link.

Dr. Bob · Aug 22, 2004

Originally posted by michelle:
Then what is your excuse Dr. Bob, being that you are a grown man guilty of these things?

Will let the Word of God judge your words.

Proverbs 10 8-10 "The wise in heart accept commands, but a chattering fool comes to ruin. The man of integrity walks securely, but he who takes crooked paths will be found out. He who winks maliciously causes grief, and a chattering fool comes to ruin.

I see a pattern there.

michelle · Aug 22, 2004

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Originally posted by michelle:
Then what is your excuse Dr. Bob, being that you are a grown man guilty of these things?
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Will let the Word of God judge your words.

Proverbs 10 8-10 "The wise in heart accept commands, but a chattering fool comes to ruin. The man of integrity walks securely, but he who takes crooked paths will be found out. He who winks maliciously causes grief, and a chattering fool comes to ruin.

I see a pattern there.
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Then you must certainly be looking in the mirror at yourself. Would you like me to post all of your posts so that you may see yourself in this?

love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

Rooster · Aug 23, 2004

Originally posted by Dr. Bob:
Rooster - Fair warning. You are being ridiculous and I won't tolerate it.

The NIV does not leave out I John 5:13. You are wrong.

The NIV does not omit the blood of Christ (like the TEV does many times). You are wrong.

The KJV (whichever revision you think is "perfect") IS copywritten in English law. Always has been. You are wrong.

If you just want to troll around acting stupid or garnering "amens" from only sect clones, do it elsewhere.

I would like you to check out this website: The truth about KJV, and the "other versions" , it shows were in the Bible the Blood is left out of NIV, it shows other verses that are completely left out of other versions, it shows the KJV as the accurate version to have.

Rooster · Aug 23, 2004

I would also like you to visit this site: reasons to read the KJV you will see that I am not alone in my thinking, and what I said has a creditable background , and is belived by other Bible scholars.

Proverbs 10:8-10 (KJV) The wise in the heart will receive commandments: but a pranting fool shall fall. He that walketh uprightly walketh surely: but he that perverteth his ways shall be known. He that winketh with the eye causeth sorrow: but a pranting fool shall fall. Time to eat crow, Dr.Bob

psr.2 · Aug 23, 2004

quote; psr.2 said "The NIV omits 1 John 5:13"

No it doesn't. Do you even check your facts before posting, or are you just repeating what you heard somewhere?

Yes I have an NIV right here. It does omit it.

Askjo · Aug 23, 2004

Originally posted by natters:
psr.2 said "The NIV omits 1 John 5:13"

No it doesn't.

KJV:
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

NIV:
I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.

NASB:
These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.

NLT:
I write this to you who believe in the Son of God, so that you may know you have eternal life.

These MVs tell you, "FALSE WITNESS!"

Askjo · Aug 23, 2004

Originally posted by psr.2:
quote; psr.2 said "The NIV omits 1 John 5:13"

No it doesn't. Do you even check your facts before posting, or are you just repeating what you heard somewhere?

Yes I have an NIV right here. It does omit it.

The online NIV agrees with you!

Scott J · Aug 23, 2004

Originally posted by Askjo:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by psr.2:
quote; psr.2 said "The NIV omits 1 John 5:13"

No it doesn't. Do you even check your facts before posting, or are you just repeating what you heard somewhere?

Yes I have an NIV right here. It does omit it.

The online NIV agrees with you!

[/QUOTE]Nope. Not even a footnote:

11And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.

Concluding Remarks

13I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. 14This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. 15And if we know that he hears us--whatever we ask--we know that we have what we asked of him.

http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?language=english&passage=1+john+5&version=NIV

Cix · Aug 23, 2004

Originally posted by Rooster:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Cix:
Would any of you KJV onlyists care to explain why there is an obvious translation error in Matthew 23:24? And please don't say it's a misprint since misprints get corrected in later printings. Translation errors perpetuate into later printings.

Since there is an error in translation, and God does not make errors, doesn't this mean that the KJV is NOT inspired?

Cix
Straining AT gnats since 2003.

There is no mistake or error, that is just the dialog they used back in the day, useing the Enlish language of the day is not an error. [/QUOTE]Older English translations got it right, and thier English is even older than 1611.

Cix · Aug 23, 2004

Originally posted by Dr. Bob:
The NIV does not leave out I John 5:13. You are wrong.

Cix · Aug 23, 2004

Originally posted by michelle:
Now everyone thinks they are a scholar enouph to know that God's word in the English language has errors in it. This then leads them to believe falsely, that God allows errors in His word of truth. This line of thinking is VERY WRONG and UNBIBLICAL, and VERY DANGEROUS. We do not need the Greek and Hebrew today, unless of course you think the word of God has errors, and you need to prove it does, by the vanity of your own mind and wisdom.

Let's see if your closed mind has the power to understand these simple premises:

1) God's word has NO ERRORS.

2) God's word is INSPRIRED and IS written in Hebrew and Greek.

3) If you can read it, and it's not in Hebrew and Greek, then it's a TRANSLATION.

4) Translations are subject to errors, for they are translated by man, NOT God.

5) The King James Bible is ONE of many English translations, it was NOT the first English translation, it was NOT the last.

6) The King James Bible, which you worship, contains translation ERRORS.

7) The King James Bible Translation is not, was not, and has never been INSPIRED writing.

8) Your KJV only position is WRONG.

Very simple concepts, even a child can understand no?

Cix · Aug 23, 2004

Originally posted by Rooster:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Dr. Bob:
Rooster - Fair warning. You are being ridiculous and I won't tolerate it.

The NIV does not leave out I John 5:13. You are wrong.

The NIV does not omit the blood of Christ (like the TEV does many times). You are wrong.

The KJV (whichever revision you think is "perfect") IS copywritten in English law. Always has been. You are wrong.

If you just want to troll around acting stupid or garnering "amens" from only sect clones, do it elsewhere.

I would like you to check out this website: The truth about KJV, and the "other versions" , it shows were in the Bible the Blood is left out of NIV, it shows other verses that are completely left out of other versions, it shows the KJV as the accurate version to have. [/QUOTE]Really, I didn't know GOD has a website! Wow!! I have to check that out right away!

David J · Aug 23, 2004

And again our local KJVOist line step better than the most die hard liberal Democrats!

Do KJVOist ever think for themselves? Do they ever research the evidence fully?

Reading this thread makes me praise God even more that I got out the snare of KJVOism! Years ago I used to echo the same junk that is found in this thread. It's amazing what happens when you seek the truth through prayer instead of relying on the myths and knowledge of man!

Honesty is not a KJVO family value!

All one has to do is research the facts and it becomes very clear that KJVOism has some problems with honesty and taking things in context.

Ed Edwards · Aug 23, 2004

uh, er

At 12:15 AM CDT on August 23, 2004 Askjo qoutes 1 John 5:13:

NIV:
I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.

At 12:17 AM CDT on August 23, 2004 Askjo agrees with
psr.2 that 1 John 5:13 does NOT appear in the NIV

Originally posted by Askjo:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by psr.2:
quote; psr.2 said "The NIV omits 1 John 5:13"

No it doesn't. Do you even check your facts before posting, or are you just repeating what you heard somewhere?

Yes I have an NIV right here. It does omit it.

The online NIV agrees with you!

[/QUOTE]My Indian (Native American) friend says:
pale face speak with forked tongue.

GrannyGumbo · Aug 23, 2004

Reading these threads makes me praise God even more that I am NOT in the snare of anti-KJVOism! It's amazing what happens when you know the truth through prayer and faith instead of relying on the myths and knowledge of man!

Honesty is an OKJV family value!

Translation ERROR in KJV bible.

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