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Trump Goes for Section 230

Agent47

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You may have never heard of it, but Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act is the legal backbone of the internet. The law was created almost 30 years ago to protect internet platforms from liability for many of the things third parties say or do on them. And now it’s under threat by one of its biggest beneficiaries: President Trump, who hopes to use it to fight back against the social media platforms he believes are unfairly censoring him and other conservative voices.

Section 230 says that internet platforms that host third-party content — think of tweets on Twitter, posts on Facebook, photos on Instagram, reviews on Yelp, or a news outlet’s reader comments — are not liable for what those third parties post (with a few exceptions). For instance, if a Yelp reviewer were to post something defamatory about a business, the business could sue the reviewer for libel, but it couldn’t sue Yelp. Without Section 230’s protections, the internet as we know it today would not exist. If the law were taken away, many websites driven by user-generated content would likely go dark.

The gravity of the situation might be lost on the president. Trump is using this threat to bully social media platforms like Twitter into letting him post whatever he wants after Twitter put a warning label that links to a fact-checking siteon two of his recent tweets. To illustrate why there’s much more at stake than Trump’s tweets, here’s a look at how Section 230 went from an amendment to a law about internet porn to the pillar of internet free speech to Trump’s latest weapon against perceived anti-conservative bias in the media.

Section 230, the internet free speech law Trump wants to change, explained
 

church mouse guy

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Once Twitter and others started censoring content that they disagreed with and banning people for life, then they became a publisher and not a platform and then they become liable for their actions in all cases. Twitter cannot censor the US President no matter how much they hate Trump. Free Speech means that one may express one's opinions with few exceptions, to use your term.
 

Agent47

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Once Twitter and others started censoring content that they disagreed with and banning people for life, then they became a publisher and not a platform and then they become liable for their actions in all cases. Twitter cannot censor the US President no matter how much they hate Trump. Free Speech means that one may express one's opinions with few exceptions, to use your term.

This is a simplistic argument. Section 230 is not absolute..it has limitations. Does free speech include sponsoring terrorism or child porn?

Since the vilest cesspits tend towards the right, I can see where the angst is coming from.

Remember attacking 230 will come to bite everyone and not just Twitter. BaptistBoard could be sued into oblivion
 

church mouse guy

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This is a simplistic argument. Section 230 is not absolute..it has limitations. Does free speech include sponsoring terrorism or child porn?

Since the vilest cesspits tend towards the right, I can see where the angst is coming from.

Remember attacking 230 will come to bite everyone and not just Twitter. BaptistBoard could be sued into oblivion

Ha!ha! Twitter did not accuse POTUS of terrorism or child porn. If Twitter wants to ban Republican opinion, they become a publisher and responsible for all content. Sue Twitter!
 

just-want-peace

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Thank goodness somebody is actually talking sense re: these ridiculous riots that the left totally abandons & condones. These riots will never stop until the price (yes, even lives maybe) becomes too steep for the "rewards"!

I would also love to see the destroyed shop owners sue the crap out of the city for allowing this destruction with absolutely no attempt at control!
 

Yeshua1

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You may have never heard of it, but Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act is the legal backbone of the internet. The law was created almost 30 years ago to protect internet platforms from liability for many of the things third parties say or do on them. And now it’s under threat by one of its biggest beneficiaries: President Trump, who hopes to use it to fight back against the social media platforms he believes are unfairly censoring him and other conservative voices.

Section 230 says that internet platforms that host third-party content — think of tweets on Twitter, posts on Facebook, photos on Instagram, reviews on Yelp, or a news outlet’s reader comments — are not liable for what those third parties post (with a few exceptions). For instance, if a Yelp reviewer were to post something defamatory about a business, the business could sue the reviewer for libel, but it couldn’t sue Yelp. Without Section 230’s protections, the internet as we know it today would not exist. If the law were taken away, many websites driven by user-generated content would likely go dark.

The gravity of the situation might be lost on the president. Trump is using this threat to bully social media platforms like Twitter into letting him post whatever he wants after Twitter put a warning label that links to a fact-checking siteon two of his recent tweets. To illustrate why there’s much more at stake than Trump’s tweets, here’s a look at how Section 230 went from an amendment to a law about internet porn to the pillar of internet free speech to Trump’s latest weapon against perceived anti-conservative bias in the media.

Section 230, the internet free speech law Trump wants to change, explained
twitter and facebook are practicing censorship, so need to be made accountable!
 

Agent47

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Ha!ha! Twitter did not accuse POTUS of terrorism or child porn. If Twitter wants to ban Republican opinion, they become a publisher and responsible for all content. Sue Twitter!

who said they did?

I shared those two examples to educate you on the scope of section 230
 

Agent47

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Thank goodness somebody is actually talking sense re: these ridiculous riots that the left totally abandons & condones. These riots will never stop until the price (yes, even lives maybe) becomes too steep for the "rewards"!

I would also love to see the destroyed shop owners sue the crap out of the city for allowing this destruction with absolutely no attempt at control!

Trump lost the black vote in this single tweet.

Not that he had a lot to start with
 

Agent47

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Law professors reckon the executive order is much ado about nothing
Legal experts said it was unclear if the Federal Communications Commission would embrace Trump’s view of Section 230 laid out in the order. Even if it does, the agency’s regulations will have no binding legal effect on judges who actually have say over the law.

The order “is 95% political theater – rhetoric without legal foundation, and without legal impact,” said Daphne Keller, an expert on internet law at Stanford University.

Marc Randazza, a First Amendment lawyer, said he agreed with Trump’s censorship concerns but acknowledged that much of the executive order would not lead to actual reforms.




Trump's order taking aim at Twitter is 'bluster': legal experts
 

Adonia

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Thank goodness somebody is actually talking sense re: these ridiculous riots that the left totally abandons & condones. These riots will never stop until the price (yes, even lives maybe) becomes too steep for the "rewards"!

I would also love to see the destroyed shop owners sue the crap out of the city for allowing this destruction with absolutely no attempt at control!

Not one Federal dime to rebuild Minneapolis. Let the leftist Mayor Frey and all the other leftist Minnesotans pay for the rebuild.
 

Adonia

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Law professors reckon the executive order is much ado about nothing
Legal experts said it was unclear if the Federal Communications Commission would embrace Trump’s view of Section 230 laid out in the order. Even if it does, the agency’s regulations will have no binding legal effect on judges who actually have say over the law.

The order “is 95% political theater – rhetoric without legal foundation, and without legal impact,” said Daphne Keller, an expert on internet law at Stanford University.

Marc Randazza, a First Amendment lawyer, said he agreed with Trump’s censorship concerns but acknowledged that much of the executive order would not lead to actual reforms.




Trump's order taking aim at Twitter is 'bluster': legal experts

Forget the Executive Order, Congress needs to come up with a new law. These entities are no longer just platforms where anyone can say what they like, but de facto publishers who now want to control the content on them. Try watching a Dennis Praeger video on YouTube, they are hard to find. They get de-monetized and buried.
 

Reynolds

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Trump lost the black vote in this single tweet.

Not that he had a lot to start with
No he didnt. The blacks that would vote for him hate the stupid rioters. Looters should be shot. Looting is not a legitimate form of civil protest.
 
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