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Trump: Lawmakers 'afraid' of NRA gun lobby group

Gold Dragon

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Trump: Lawmakers 'afraid' of US gun lobby

"They have great power over you people," the president said of the NRA to his fellow Republicans on Wednesday. "They have less power over me."

Some of you are petrified of the NRA," he added.
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Mr Trump also warned lawmakers against proposing a bill that included concealed carry reciprocity among states, a provision Republicans and the NRA have aimed to include in any gun legislation.
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I'm not sure how wise this approach is for Trump with his base, but if he can release the stranglehold the NRA has on American politics, that can only be a good thing.

I respect the 2nd amendment and its historic, cultural and theoretical importance. But the NRA is preventing the US from being able to have reasonable policies about balancing the 2nd amendment with the risks it poses to modern life. Kudos to Trump on this one and hopefully he doesn't change his tune at the first sign of trouble.
 
carpro

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The NRA is a paper tiger.

It's the voters they are really afraid of. Over 100,000,000 gun owners and second amendment supporters. And what Trump says doesn't matter one bit to them.

Democrats have paid a heavy price before for the assault weapons ban.
 
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"Oh, it’s certainly the case that the NRA and related groups have given a good amount of money to Republican politicians (and quite a few Democrats) over the years. But in the grubby bazaar of politician-buying, the NRA is a bit player...In terms of lobbying and political contributions, the NRA and the gun industry generally spend next to nothing compared with the big players. According to OpenSecrets, the NRA spent $1.1 million on contributions in 2016 and $3 million on lobbying. The food and beverage industry has spent $14 million on lobbying in 2017 alone. Alphabet, Google’s parent company, spent $9 million on contributions in 2016."
NRA & Guns: Support among Voters Is High, It’s Not about Money | National Review
 
Gold Dragon

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Counting up how much the NRA spends on campaigns, lobbying

NRA spends millions more intervening in campaigns and lobbying
The NRA’s biggest chunk of spending on politics came from "outside spending," consisting largely of "independent expenditures" — efforts "expressly advocating the election or defeat of a clearly identified candidate." Often these take the form of campaign ads, but they are carried out without coordinating with the candidates they are supporting.

This type of spending vastly outpaces what the NRA spent on giving to candidates directly. The NRA spent $144.3 million on outside spending, such as independent expenditures, during that period.

In addition, the NRA since 1998 has reported spending a cumulative $45.9 million on federal lobbying, both for its in-house operations and the outside consultants it has retained.

If you add it all up -- candidate and party contributions, independent expenditures, and lobbying -- the NRA has spent $203.2 million on political activities since 1998.
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HankD

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Our concern should be this next generation of voters who will be coming of age.

Those who don't know which toilet to use.
Those who need a safe place to hide even at the mention of the word "GUN".
The brainwashed snowflakes who will end the generation of the millennials.
 
Reynolds

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Gold Dragon said:
Trump: Lawmakers 'afraid' of US gun lobby



I'm not sure how wise this approach is for Trump with his base, but if he can release the stranglehold the NRA has on American politics, that can only be a good thing.

I respect the 2nd amendment and its historic, cultural and theoretical importance. But the NRA is preventing the US from being able to have reasonable policies about balancing the 2nd amendment with the risks it poses to modern life. Kudos to Trump on this one and hopefully he doesn't change his tune at the first sign of trouble.
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"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Benjamin Franklin
 
Reynolds

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Gold Dragon said:
Trump: Lawmakers 'afraid' of US gun lobby



I'm not sure how wise this approach is for Trump with his base, but if he can release the stranglehold the NRA has on American politics, that can only be a good thing.

I respect the 2nd amendment and its historic, cultural and theoretical importance. But the NRA is preventing the US from being able to have reasonable policies about balancing the 2nd amendment with the risks it poses to modern life. Kudos to Trump on this one and hopefully he doesn't change his tune at the first sign of trouble.
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Moral degeneration, not guns, pose the risk to modern life.
 
Adonia

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Gold Dragon said:
I'm not sure how wise this approach is for Trump with his base, but if he can release the stranglehold the NRA has on American politics, that can only be a good thing.
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The NRA represents some 4 million gun owners in the USA and we vote. They represent our interests and they only seek to "preserve, protect, and defend" the Constitution of the United States as it now stands. It is a darn shame that so many politicians have forgotten this oath that they taken in order to assume their respective offices.

Gold Dragon said:
I respect the 2nd amendment and its historic, cultural and theoretical importance.
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You do not. Those are the same words that we hear from elected officials as they introduce gun control bill after gun control bill that infringes on our rights.

Gold Dragon said:
But the NRA is preventing the US from being able to have reasonable policies about balancing the 2nd amendment with the risks it poses to modern life.
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No, the NRA is standing up for the Constitution. We already have reasonable policies and the hoops a citizen already has to jump through are many. We would probably have gun laws like you have now if it weren't for the NRA. Many Democrats want a full ban on the civilian ownership of firearms ALL FIREARMS and that is their end goal and they work to make it happen incrementally. One little law here, another one there, and whamo it will be no firearms for anyone.

It's not only the Federal Constitution that insures our gun rights, but many State constitutions also have this particular protection. We are at a point in America where standing up for actual written constitutional rights has become a negative and that is a terrible shame.
 
Reynolds

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Gold Dragon said:
Trump: Lawmakers 'afraid' of US gun lobby



I'm not sure how wise this approach is for Trump with his base, but if he can release the stranglehold the NRA has on American politics, that can only be a good thing.

I respect the 2nd amendment and its historic, cultural and theoretical importance. But the NRA is preventing the US from being able to have reasonable policies about balancing the 2nd amendment with the risks it poses to modern life. Kudos to Trump on this one and hopefully he doesn't change his tune at the first sign of trouble.
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How about lets put the Ten Commandments back on the school walls and in the classrooms. How many mass school shootings did we have when God was still welcome in our schools? Back then, you could still buy fully automatic weapons. You could mail order guns delivered to your door. What changed? Morals changed. Change them back. Stop reacting to symptoms. Deal with the root problem.
 
Gold Dragon

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I wish the NRA would also stand and defend the purpose of this great document instead of just the 2nd amendment.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordainand establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
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In Canada and Australia, it isn't in our constitutions but anyone can still apply for a license and get a gun if they meet the criteria. Many do and recognize the great responsibility that comes with gun ownership and the risk it poses to themselves and others without proper safety measures. Fortunately most folks don't feel like they need a gun because reasonable gun policies, good relationships with police and low poverty levels from good social services are able to keep gun violence down.

The Big Melt: How One Democracy Changed after Scrapping a Third of Its Firearms

How easy is it to get a gun in Australia?
 
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