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Two Terrorist Gunmen Shot Dead at Garland TX Mohammed Cartoon Show

InTheLight

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Two men who opened fire outside a contest for Prophet Mohammad cartoons in a Dallas suburb were shot dead by police Sunday night, authorities said.

The men drove up to the Culwell Event Center in North Garland, got out of their car and began shooting just as the "Muhammad Art Exhibit and Cartoon Contest" inside was coming to an end, Garland police spokesman Joe Harns said.

An unamed security guard was shot in the leg. He was later treated and released from a hospital.

Police who were helping with security at the event fired back, killing both gunmen, Harns said.

Their identities weren't immediately released.

Two people were shot by police outside an event billed as the "Muhammad Art Exhibit and Cartoon Contest" in Garland, Texas, according to the city's mayor

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preachinjesus

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This should be absolutely shocking to our nation.

Let us not be dissuaded from saying aloud that radical Islam is a threat to western civilization and must be put down. Radical Islam is in our midst and ready to begin attacking anyone who dares offer a word of caution. Until we realize this, as a society as a civilization, we will be forever losing.
 

righteousdude2

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Two men who opened fire outside a contest for Prophet Mohammad cartoons in a Dallas suburb were shot dead by police Sunday night, authorities said.

The men drove up to the Culwell Event Center in North Garland, got out of their car and began shooting just as the "Muhammad Art Exhibit and Cartoon Contest" inside was coming to an end, Garland police spokesman Joe Harns said.

An unamed security guard was shot in the leg. He was later treated and released from a hospital.

Police who were helping with security at the event fired back, killing both gunmen, Harns said.

Their identities weren't immediately released.

Two people were shot by police outside an event billed as the "Muhammad Art Exhibit and Cartoon Contest" in Garland, Texas, according to the city's mayor

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This may not be racial, like you are always accusing me of, but it is radical and about another culture within society. So tell me Dim the Lights, why can you post junk, and I can't; without feeling the wrath of your sarcasm. Is it elitist on your behalf, or do you just not like me? Which is your problem, either way. Shalom! :type:
 

Jkdbuck76

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Shot by middle-aged Swedish nuns, huh? Those darn middle-aged Swedish nuns are always shooting up people.

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ShagNappy

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...xhibition-art-depicting-prophet-Muhammad.html

Former terror suspect well known to the FBI is named as one of two gunmen shot dead by cops after attack on anti-Islam 'draw Muhammad' art contest near Dallas

-Two suspects were gunned down after shooting a guard in the leg outside the Curtis Culwell Center in Garland
-The American Freedom Defense Initiative event had offered a $10,000 prize for the best caricature of the prophet
-The FBI named one of the gunmen as Elton Simpson, who was convicted of lying to federal agents about traveling to Africa five years ago - but a judge ruled it could not be proved that he was going to join a terror group
-Simpson's Phoenix, Arizona home has been surrounded and a bomb squad is carrying out a search
-Reports suggest the pair were carrying explosives as they approached the building in the Dallas suburb
-Garland Mayor Douglas Athas said the second suspect was shot as he turned to reach for his backpack
-ISIS fighter claimed on Twitter that the shooting was carried out by two pro-ISIS individuals
 

Baptist Believer

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Two thoughts:

1.) It is incredibly disrespectful that this group would hold an event designed to be disrespectful to Islam and inflame Muslim anger. I think Christians would be profoundly offended if a group decided to hold an event encouraging participants to depict Jesus in an offensive way - such as in sexual poses or committing gross sin. It is the antithesis of loving one's neighbor/enemy and Christians should not be involved. That is not to say that we cannot expose the error of Islam and present Jesus as God incarnate, but we cannot disqualify our words by unloving actions. According to Jesus, His followers are to be characterized by love - love for each other, love for one's neighbor, and love for one's enemies. By turning a blind eye to these events (or even supporting them!), we help to radicalize Muslims, perpetuating an extremely serious global problem. Unfortunately, to many Muslims overseas, the United States is seen as the representative for Christianity. Stories about events like this travel around the world through Islamic circles. Wouldn't it be great if Christians protested this event and THAT was also known throughout the Islamic world?

2.) The two who attacked this event are a sad example of radicalized Islam, a religion that knows nothing of separation of church/mosque and state in most parts of the world. To many involved in this religious system, the only means honoring their understanding of God is to exact justice against those who would offend their god. We certainly must resist evil, but we should also seek to built inroads into the Muslim world so that Jesus would be known there are the only begotten Son of God Who is calling all to redemption in the Kingdom of God.
 

Tom Bryant

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Two thoughts:

1.) It is incredibly disrespectful that this group would hold an event designed to be disrespectful to Islam and inflame Muslim anger. I think Christians would be profoundly offended if a group decided to hold an event encouraging participants to depict Jesus in an offensive way - such as in sexual poses or committing gross sin. It is the antithesis of loving one's neighbor/enemy and Christians should not be involved. That is not to say that we cannot expose the error of Islam and present Jesus as God incarnate, but we cannot disqualify our words by unloving actions. According to Jesus, His followers are to be characterized by love - love for each other, love for one's neighbor, and love for one's enemies. By turning a blind eye to these events (or even supporting them!), we help to radicalize Muslims, perpetuating an extremely serious global problem. Unfortunately, to many Muslims overseas, the United States is seen as the representative for Christianity. Stories about events like this travel around the world through Islamic circles. Wouldn't it be great if Christians protested this event and THAT was also known throughout the Islamic world?

2.) The two who attacked this event are a sad example of radicalized Islam, a religion that knows nothing of separation of church/mosque and state in most parts of the world. To many involved in this religious system, the only means honoring their understanding of God is to exact justice against those who would offend their god. We certainly must resist evil, but we should also seek to built inroads into the Muslim world so that Jesus would be known there are the only begotten Son of God Who is calling all to redemption in the Kingdom of God.

First off, this wasn't a Christian event, this was a free speech event.

Second, I am guessing that you think we should give up our right to free speech because it might "inflame" muslim radicals. I am not giving up my free speech for anyone especially because it might inflame some murderers hatred

Third, Muslims were inflamed before any Mohammad cartoon was ever broadcast.
 

ShagNappy

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Two thoughts:

1.) It is incredibly disrespectful that this group would hold an event designed to be disrespectful to Islam and inflame Muslim anger. I think Christians would be profoundly offended if a group decided to hold an event encouraging participants to depict Jesus in an offensive way - such as in sexual poses or committing gross sin. It is the antithesis of loving one's neighbor/enemy and Christians should not be involved. That is not to say that we cannot expose the error of Islam and present Jesus as God incarnate, but we cannot disqualify our words by unloving actions. According to Jesus, His followers are to be characterized by love - love for each other, love for one's neighbor, and love for one's enemies. By turning a blind eye to these events (or even supporting them!), we help to radicalize Muslims, perpetuating an extremely serious global problem. Unfortunately, to many Muslims overseas, the United States is seen as the representative for Christianity. Stories about events like this travel around the world through Islamic circles. Wouldn't it be great if Christians protested this event and THAT was also known throughout the Islamic world?

2.) The two who attacked this event are a sad example of radicalized Islam, a religion that knows nothing of separation of church/mosque and state in most parts of the world. To many involved in this religious system, the only means honoring their understanding of God is to exact justice against those who would offend their god. We certainly must resist evil, but we should also seek to built inroads into the Muslim world so that Jesus would be known there are the only begotten Son of God Who is calling all to redemption in the Kingdom of God.

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Baptist Believer

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First off, this wasn't a Christian event, this was a free speech event.
No kidding. However, Christians should be opposed to it.

Second, I am guessing that you think we should give up our right to free speech because it might "inflame" muslim radicals.
You have guessed wrong.

If you are a follower of Jesus, you give up your right to free speech. You must bring your speech and your actions in line with the teachings of Jesus.

We should give up our "right" to be unloving to Muslims. This event was about being offensive to Muslims in general, not just murderous Muslims.

I am not giving up my free speech for anyone especially because it might inflame some murderers hatred
No, but you should give it up to be obedient to Jesus.

Love one another (John 13:25)
Love God and your neighbor (Matthew 22:36-40)
Love one another as Jesus has loved us (John 15:12)
Love your enemies (Matthew 5:43-47)

Are you going to be obedient to Jesus or not?

Third, Muslims were inflamed before any Mohammad cartoon was ever broadcast.
We are not talking about "inflamed" Muslims only. The event was designed to offend all Muslims. Moreover, why would we want to perpetuate the situation of "inflamed" Muslims? Jesus calls us to a ministry of reconciliation, not aggravation.

If someone it to be offended, let it be because of the gospel, not because of ungodly events like this.
 

ShagNappy

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First off, this wasn't a Christian event, this was a free speech event.

Second, I am guessing that you think we should give up our right to free speech because it might "inflame" muslim radicals. I am not giving up my free speech for anyone especially because it might inflame some murderers hatred

Third, Muslims were inflamed before any Mohammad cartoon was ever broadcast.

Pretty certain his point was that we should try acting like Christians. Not like a political action committee. Please provide me the book, chapter, and verse where Christ even hinted at the idea that we are to worry ourselves with Freedom of Speech, or anything even remotely political!

Jesus called us to be like Him. A humble servant, a man of no means, not even considered a decent looking man. He had nothing, not even a mule to ride into Jerusalem with. He took the Gospel to the lost and dying sinners, the worst of the worst, then He died for us. Where does the American Dream, the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, etc., fit in with being Christlike?
 

InTheLight

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So tell me Dim the Lights, why can you post junk, and I can't; without feeling the wrath of your sarcasm. Is it elitist on your behalf, or do you just not like me? Which is your problem, either way. Shalom! :type:

I merely posted a news story, with no commentary on my part. Here is the original link:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/03/us/mohammed-drawing-contest-shooting/

I simply copy-and-pasted the news story. You almost always make some kind of a racial comment or otherwise opine about the stuff you post.

That is the difference. If you have any other questions let me know.
 

Zaac

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Two thoughts:

1.) It is incredibly disrespectful that this group would hold an event designed to be disrespectful to Islam and inflame Muslim anger. I think Christians would be profoundly offended if a group decided to hold an event encouraging participants to depict Jesus in an offensive way - such as in sexual poses or committing gross sin. It is the antithesis of loving one's neighbor/enemy and Christians should not be involved. That is not to say that we cannot expose the error of Islam and present Jesus as God incarnate, but we cannot disqualify our words by unloving actions. According to Jesus, His followers are to be characterized by love - love for each other, love for one's neighbor, and love for one's enemies. By turning a blind eye to these events (or even supporting them!), we help to radicalize Muslims, perpetuating an extremely serious global problem. Unfortunately, to many Muslims overseas, the United States is seen as the representative for Christianity. Stories about events like this travel around the world through Islamic circles. Wouldn't it be great if Christians protested this event and THAT was also known throughout the Islamic world?

2.) The two who attacked this event are a sad example of radicalized Islam, a religion that knows nothing of separation of church/mosque and state in most parts of the world. To many involved in this religious system, the only means honoring their understanding of God is to exact justice against those who would offend their god. We certainly must resist evil, but we should also seek to built inroads into the Muslim world so that Jesus would be known there are the only begotten Son of God Who is calling all to redemption in the Kingdom of God.

This post and your other are EXCELLENT.:thumbs:

And it's not just Muslims who Christians do this with. We've developed a bad habit of being disrespectful and just nasty just because free speech says we can and then we wonder why folks respond the way they do.
 

Zaac

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No kidding. However, Christians should be opposed to it.


You have guessed wrong.

If you are a follower of Jesus, you give up your right to free speech. You must bring your speech and your actions in line with the teachings of Jesus.

BRAVO!!!

We should give up our "right" to be unloving to Muslims. This event was about being offensive to Muslims in general, not just murderous Muslims.


No, but you should give it up to be obedient to Jesus.

Love one another (John 13:25)
Love God and your neighbor (Matthew 22:36-40)
Love one another as Jesus has loved us (John 15:12)
Love your enemies (Matthew 5:43-47)

Are you going to be obedient to Jesus or not?


We are not talking about "inflamed" Muslims only. The event was designed to offend all Muslims. Moreover, why would we want to perpetuate the situation of "inflamed" Muslims? Jesus calls us to a ministry of reconciliation, not aggravation.

If someone it to be offended, let it be because of the gospel, not because of ungodly events like this.

Just EXCELLENT!!!
 

carpro

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Actually, muslims just need to get over themselves.

Their false prophet is dead and buried in Medina. He doesn't care if someone draws a picture him or not.
 

Zaac

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Actually, muslims just need to get over themselves.

Their false prophet is dead and buried in Medina. He doesn't care if someone draws a picture him or not.

Christian love and compassion at its finest. :rolleyes:
 

Don

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There's a two-fold response to this thread.

In the Christian sense, Baptist Believer is absolutely correct.

In the context of this particular incident (which was non-Christian), there is a secular governmental viewpoint. These muslims, if they were American, chose to let their religious beliefs override their agreement to abide by American laws, rights, and privileges -- which include free speech by and for all.

If they weren't Americans, then they acted exactly as I would expect them to.

As for the people putting on this event, it's my personal opinion that they were attempting to capitalize off of the same type of "negative advertising" that Charlie Abdo received. It's also my personal opinion that we're expecting them to act as Christians, and/or at least be respectful of others' religious beliefs. We have such high ideals for sinners, and yet act surprised when they don't meet those ideals.
 
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