Originally posted by ASLANSPAL:
Again Dragoon this is not a confirmation board where just because you tell others to do something to confirm your view that it is going to be done.
ASLANSPAL, no one is "telling" you - as in "ordering" you - to do anything! I think most everyone that posts hereon is independent enough that they wouldn't oblige such if it were the case. We all "tell" each other things that we believe we should or shouldn't do. You will find that in your own posts. That is part of the debate. So long as we're not blatantly rude or abusive about that I don't see it as a problem.
Make up your mind one minute you say you don't trust the media then all of a sudden you like Ann Coulter on the list of conservatives but yet you have no opinion of Ms.Coulter ..what gives?
You're not understanding the clarification I made between news, entertainment, and academic venues verses commentators. I've explained that at least twice on this thread alone. We all have "favorite" commentators and there are plenty of political viewpoints from which to choice.
The regular news media - especially the television news - is very liberally biased. One of the "classics" books on this subject is Bias: A CBS Insider Exposes How the Media Distort the News by Bernard Goldberg with confirms the liberal bias about which I've written. I personally observe that tendency especially when the subject matter being reported is one about which I have specific knowledge. There are, of course, books that present the opposite view.
I do like some of what Ann Coulter says. She's a good commentator. I don't agree with everything she says. I did "take up" for her on another thread regarding her debate with Robert Muller because I believe the story about that grossly misrepresented her comments. That still doesn't mean I blindly agree with her, or any other commentator, on everything. Another example is Neal Bortz whom I generally enjoy and agree with. However, I strongly disagree with his position on homosexuals. He's dead right on a lot of other issues. There are others - the ones who are clearly and consistently liberal - that I don't even bother reading.
I suspect most people feel that way about various commentators they like. They may agree with them on some or most but not all issues.
By all means I am showing resolve and encouraging the troops to draw down from what has now become a sectarian and civil conflict ..where your resolve is to allow more blood and treasure to be wasted. Bottom line we can bring our troops home with honor and a defined victory ..I have got that resolve..you quit with your "show resolve baloney" it is disingenuous..you take care or you and I will take care of me and like I said this is not a confirmation board. As for bush I have a right to point out incompetence and hypocrisy so quit it with your "Stepford wifes doctrine" where we all are just bushbots..again back to my salient point this is a discussin/debate board not a confirmation board.
We - every American - needs to show resolve by supporting the cause. You believe differently and consistently criticize all views to the contrary. Don't expect a free pass to do that while others - who believe in the cause - remain silent. That would turn this forum into yet another liberal biased venue where only one view would be presented. Surely, you don't advocate that!
I think you would do better to write Republican leaders and tell them to show resolve in accordance to your view...they are the ones looking towards the 2006 elections and how to get elected...now that is a debatable issue!
Will they show your resolve..or will they show the resolve to solve a problem and bring troops home via a time table ..btw that has been leaked out and it was leaked out for a reason to get the public ready for a time table for withdrawal.
I'm not too worried about conservative Republicans. I'm still a bit concerned because they too are politicians. I've written off the liberal Democrats as a hopeless case. There are, of course, liberal Republicans and conservative Democrats and many in between.
However, it's the undecided persons - American citizens with voting power - that could be swayed by your line of thinking I worry more about. So, I'm going to be pushing for the right solution. Don't expect a free pass to communicate your views openly while those with opposing few remain silent. That's not going happen!
It is not about resolve it is about discussion and debate...you can attempt to use that trite soundbite to end debate but guess what it will continue.
The issue of resolve is absolutely a matter of discussion and debate. In fact, that's critical to our success or failure in the war against terrorism. So, you bet, Lord willing, that I'm going to keep advancing that issue. I understand that you don't like it but it has to be said. Try not to take it as a personal insult which it is, I assure you, certainly is not intended to.
Everyone in this country is resolved on the war on terrorism but it is there right to point out incompetence and hypocrisy and it also American blood and treasure so again it is our right to critique.
No, everyone in this country is not resolved to win the war on terrorism at the price it may take. Some people are wanting to pull out regardless. Some are advocating a "draw down" by a time table that would reveal our plans to our enemies in advance. That's a big problem! Many more are influenced by whomever is the most vocal and by want they see on the evening news - one of those highly liberally biased venues - and their resolve is threatened by it. It is important that we not fail to this weakness.
It is, indeed, a "right" to critique what our government does and doesn't do. It's also a "right" and a duty to critique that process itself and to make not when it becomes a threat to our success. When the critique turns into a malicious and destructive bashing of a just cause it threatens the morale of those we've sent to fight and serves then to support the cause of the enemy.
My next big critique is where did all those billions of tax payer dollars go in Iraq?
Is that legitimate debate Dragoon?
Sure, start another thread to bring up this evil conspiracy theory.
Show resolve - Support the cause! It is a fight for survival, ASLANSPAL, and we need you, along with every other American, to be 100% on our side! The troops need to know we are behind what they're doing and why they're doing it.
