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Vaccine and Ingredients

JonC

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From the John Hopkins School of Medicine:

MYTH: The COVID-19 vaccine was developed with or contains controversial substances.

FACT: The first two COVID-19 vaccines to be authorized by the FDA contain mRNA and other, normal vaccine ingredients, such as fats (which protect the mRNA), salts, as well as a small amount of sugar. These COVID-19 vaccines were not developed using fetal tissue, and they do not contain any material, such as implants, microchips or tracking devices.


COVID-19 Vaccines: Myth Versus Fact
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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From the John Hopkins School of Medicine:

MYTH: The COVID-19 vaccine was developed with or contains controversial substances.

FACT: The first two COVID-19 vaccines to be authorized by the FDA contain mRNA and other, normal vaccine ingredients, such as fats (which protect the mRNA), salts, as well as a small amount of sugar. These COVID-19 vaccines were not developed using fetal tissue, and they do not contain any material, such as implants, microchips or tracking devices.


COVID-19 Vaccines: Myth Versus Fact
Then why are people getting sick from them? I have testimonies from at least 3 people I’ve met who became violently ill from them and one old man died soon after taking the shot.
 

JonC

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Then why are people getting sick from them? I have testimonies from at least 3 people I’ve met who became violently ill from them and one old man died soon after taking the shot.
All vaccines carry risks. We knew this from the start. But just becoming sick is normal for any vacvine. The point is to get your body to react - to produce antibodies.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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All vaccines carry risks. We knew this from the start. But just becoming sick is normal for any vacvine. The point is to get your body to react - to produce antibodies.

I’m referring to extreme sickness to the point of exhaustion which killed an older man / my neighbor, put a cancer patient in the hospital, caused heart irregularities in a 19 y o boy. These are not normal reactions.
 

JonC

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I’m referring to extreme sickness to the point of exhaustion which killed an older man / my neighbor, put a cancer patient in the hospital, caused heart irregularities in a 19 y o boy. These are not normal reactions.
Actually these are normal, but rare, reactions for vaccinations.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Actually these are normal, but rare, reactions for vaccinations.
Still, they were the reality experienced by at least 3 people that I know personally. Considering that I’ve heart, lung and diabetes and Pam has type 4 cancer…causes me pause to taking that experimental vaccine.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Then you gotta wonder what the government was thinking by introducing via vaccine spinal meningitis into my sisters (a 3 yo)brain stem 67 years ago? The end results were devastating and my mother never ever trusts the government after that.

Of course both science and the health care profession only had the best intentions :Sneaky
 

JonC

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Still, they were the reality experienced by at least 3 people that I know personally. Considering that I’ve heart, lung and diabetes and Pam has type 4 cancer…causes me pause to taking that experimental vaccine.
Well....if we are honest the vaccine is not experimental, regardless of whether it actually works.

I also have personal experience with people who have been vaccinated and have had covid. I'll take my chances with the vaccine.
 

JonC

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Then you gotta wonder what the government was thinking by introducing via vaccine spinal meningitis into my sisters (a 3 yo)brain stem 67 years ago? The end results were devastating and my mother never ever trusts the government after that.

Of course both science and the health care profession only had the best intentions :Sneaky
The key is in your post (67 years ago).
 

Wingman68

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Well....if we are honest the vaccine is not experimental, regardless of whether it actually works.

I also have personal experience with people who have been vaccinated and have had covid. I'll take my chances with the vaccine.
You have become a bot. You are now saying it is not experimental. They are administering experimental every day. We’ve been through this countless times. Comirnaty is approved, even though it is the ‘same’, that name was the only approved vax. They don’t have any stock of it, so, every one taking a vax today is taking experimental. No drug company will be responsible for the outcome. End of story.
 
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Wingman68

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Senator Ron Johnson Points Out No FDA Approved Vaccine is Currently Available in The United States, Pfizer Comirnaty Vaccine Not Being Used
October 5, 2021 | Sundance | 238 Comments
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On August 23, 2021, the FDA announced that Pfizer was granted Biologic License Application approval for their COVID-19 vaccine. [Press release Here] you can find the Approval Letter at the following LINK HERE. The approved Pfizer vaccine is not the same as the original COVID-19 vaccine from the same company. Pfizer named the new blend “Comirnaty”, and it was approved for individuals 16 years of age and older.

However, Senator Ron Johnson continues to point out that Pfizer’s FDA Approved “Comirnaty” vaccine is not available in the United States. The only nation currently known to be using Comirnaty is Israel who contracted exclusively with Pfizer to use their population as test subjects for the pharmaceutical company. There are no FDA approved vaccines available in the U.S. despite the media claims and despite vaccines being forcibly injected into the arms of unwilling U.S. test subjects.

Ron Johnson wants to know why, and the FDA is refusing to answer his questions. {Direct Rumble Link Here} WATCH:


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Wingman68

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If Johns Hopkins is telling their own staff that natural immunity exempts them from the vaxxx, why isn't that good enough for the rest of us?
 

RipponRedeaux

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Well....if we are honest the vaccine is not experimental, regardless of whether it actually works.

I also have personal experience with people who have been vaccinated and have had covid. I'll take my chances with the vaccine.
Well, that's foolish. The vax is much more dangerous than so-called 'COVID.'

Why in the world do you deny that it is experimental?
 

Reformed1689

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Well....if we are honest the vaccine is not experimental, regardless of whether it actually works.

I also have personal experience with people who have been vaccinated and have had covid. I'll take my chances with the vaccine.
Of course it is experimental. It is new technology in human consumer vaccines. It has not undergone the same LONG-TERM rigors of other vaccines. So, despite what the FDA labels it, it is absolutely experimental.
 

JonC

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This allegation has been made about the Johnson & Johnson COVID vaccine.

How cells taken from decades-old fetal tissue are used in Covid-19 drug research
They did not use fetal tissue or cells, but they did use cells from the fetal cell line (PER.C6). Not as an ingredient of course, but as a part of production. These cells were descended from an abortion in the Netherlands that took place in 1985.

The Pfizer and Moderna used the fetal cell line (HEK 293) in the testing phase. These cells were descended from an abortion in the Netherkands that took place in 1973.

Of course, no actual material from a fetus or abortion was used. But these lines came about from that evil. It is amazing how God can use these evils men commit for His glory.
 

JonC

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Senator Ron Johnson Points Out No FDA Approved Vaccine is Currently Available in The United States, Pfizer Comirnaty Vaccine Not Being Used
October 5, 2021 | Sundance | 238 Comments
pfizer-vaccine.jpg
On August 23, 2021, the FDA announced that Pfizer was granted Biologic License Application approval for their COVID-19 vaccine. [Press release Here] you can find the Approval Letter at the following LINK HERE. The approved Pfizer vaccine is not the same as the original COVID-19 vaccine from the same company. Pfizer named the new blend “Comirnaty”, and it was approved for individuals 16 years of age and older.

However, Senator Ron Johnson continues to point out that Pfizer’s FDA Approved “Comirnaty” vaccine is not available in the United States. The only nation currently known to be using Comirnaty is Israel who contracted exclusively with Pfizer to use their population as test subjects for the pharmaceutical company. There are no FDA approved vaccines available in the U.S. despite the media claims and despite vaccines being forcibly injected into the arms of unwilling U.S. test subjects.

Ron Johnson wants to know why, and the FDA is refusing to answer his questions. {Direct Rumble Link Here} WATCH:


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Comirnaty is avaliable, just without a name brand. The FDA approved the vaccine (using data from all 3 phase testing over the 15 months). Once they were given the green light Pfizer named the vaccine "Comirnaty".

Ron Johnson is just trying to manuplate people. He knows the approval was based on the vaccine before it was named. The troubling part is there are people stupid enough to believe him. (Not you...I know you realize Johnson is manuplating facts).

Moderna and J&J will do the same once approved.
 

Wingman68

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This guy continues to be outspoken, recently went on with Tucker.

Makary, who is a professor at Johns Hopkins Medical School, said ignoring the possibility of reaching natural immunity is “one of the biggest failures of our current medical leadership,” the Daily Caller reported.

According to Sara Carter, an independent journalist, Makary stated, “Natural immunity works.” Not only does it work but it could also be “lifelong immunity.”

“Please, ignore the CDC guidance,” the doctor said. “Live a normal life, unless you are unvaccinated and did not have the infection, in which case you need to be careful.”

Makary went a step further to state the CDC has become a “slow, reactionary, political” agency.

Meanwhile, Dr. Fauci recently told Business Insider “vaccines are highly efficacious,” and “better than the traditional response you get from natural infection.”

Unfortunately, government bureaucrats like Dr. Fauci seem more concerned with pushing vaccines and keeping people under CDC control than helping them understand natural immunity and remedies.

Thankfully, other doctors who are interested in the well-being of Americans, like Dr. Makary, are attempting to shed light on the truth about natural methods.
 

37818

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They did not use fetal tissue or cells, but they did use cells from the fetal cell line (PER.C6). Not as an ingredient of course, but as a part of production. These cells were descended from an abortion in the Netherlands that took place in 1985.

The Pfizer and Moderna used the fetal cell line (HEK 293) in the testing phase. These cells were descended from an abortion in the Netherkands that took place in 1973.

Of course, no actual material from a fetus or abortion was used. But these lines came about from that evil. It is amazing how God can use these evils men commit for His glory.
Even with those facts being that, this in my view and others give reason all the COVID vaccines to date to be viewed as morally unacceptable.
 
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