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Was there a Pre-Adamic Race
- Thread starter Kay
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It must contradict these verses:
Romans 5
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. 15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. 16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. 19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous
1 Cor 15
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven
Romans 5
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. 15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. 16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. 19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous
1 Cor 15
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven
standingfirminChrist
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Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. (Genesis 2:1-3)
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. (Revelation 21:1)
God created the earth in six days. It does not say He re-created it.
The first earth will not be until after the tribulations.
Genesisis 2 records that on the seventh day He rested from all His work which He created and made... It was only a six day creation and then rest on the seventh.
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. (Revelation 21:1)
God created the earth in six days. It does not say He re-created it.
The first earth will not be until after the tribulations.
Genesisis 2 records that on the seventh day He rested from all His work which He created and made... It was only a six day creation and then rest on the seventh.
tinytim said:
1. Yes, and it is an awful thing to assume. It goes against the whole of redemptive history.
2. Isn't it instructive that Jesus began with the first man and woman in our Genesis account, in a discourse of His (Matt. 9:4, 5: "He answered, "Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female,
Mat 19:5 and said, 'Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'?" emphasis mine).
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mcdirector
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Just out of curiousity Kay, what led you to think that there might have been a race before Adam?
convicted1
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Pre-Adamic race?
I have a Dake annotated study bible that I truly love, but he(Dake) tries to "twist" the Word into a way to make one believe there was a race before God made Adam. Some say that the word "was" could also be translated "became", so that it would say in Genesis 1 that the world "became" void and without form, instead of "was" void and without form. I am not saying that Finis Dake started this, but he was a major propononent(sp?) of this theology.
The race, according to Dake, was Lucifer and his minions, after they were cast out of heaven. When God wanted to make Adam, He caused a great flood to come over the earth, and it got rid of Lucifer and his minions. He used some scriptures that was talking about the flood in the days of Noah and tried to twist them to make it sound like there was a flood prior to the days of Noah. But we all know that this didn't happen. I use my Dake because it has Greek and Hebrew translation with it, and a MONSTER concordance in the back. It is truly a nice bible, but I don't pay too much attention to Dake's sidenotes. Is there anyone else who has one. Do you like it? May God bless!!
BTW, as far as this goes, it has NOTHING to do with salvation. So this is kinda like splitting hairs, don't you think? But if ones believes this "strange" theology, it makes me wonder what else that's off the wall, does he/she believe?
Willis Fletcher, Jr.
I have a Dake annotated study bible that I truly love, but he(Dake) tries to "twist" the Word into a way to make one believe there was a race before God made Adam. Some say that the word "was" could also be translated "became", so that it would say in Genesis 1 that the world "became" void and without form, instead of "was" void and without form. I am not saying that Finis Dake started this, but he was a major propononent(sp?) of this theology.
The race, according to Dake, was Lucifer and his minions, after they were cast out of heaven. When God wanted to make Adam, He caused a great flood to come over the earth, and it got rid of Lucifer and his minions. He used some scriptures that was talking about the flood in the days of Noah and tried to twist them to make it sound like there was a flood prior to the days of Noah. But we all know that this didn't happen. I use my Dake because it has Greek and Hebrew translation with it, and a MONSTER concordance in the back. It is truly a nice bible, but I don't pay too much attention to Dake's sidenotes. Is there anyone else who has one. Do you like it? May God bless!!
BTW, as far as this goes, it has NOTHING to do with salvation. So this is kinda like splitting hairs, don't you think? But if ones believes this "strange" theology, it makes me wonder what else that's off the wall, does he/she believe?
Willis Fletcher, Jr.
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David Lamb
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Kay said:
Not according to the bible. It would have to mean that death had entered the world before sin and the fall (of Adam and Eve, not the American autumn
)There are plenty of people who will try to tell you otherwise. But such is just as much nonsense as the idea propounded by some that Adam had a wife before Eve, whose name was Lilith or Lillith. There is no support at all for this in the bible.
standingfirminChrist
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And the evening and the morning were the first day.
And the evening and the morning were the second day.
And the evening and the morning were the third day.
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made
Seems clear to me. If there had been a gap between the creation of the world and all that is therein, the Word would not have said "And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Enough said.
And the evening and the morning were the second day.
And the evening and the morning were the third day.
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made
Seems clear to me. If there had been a gap between the creation of the world and all that is therein, the Word would not have said "And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Enough said.
mcdirector
Active Member
convicted1 said:
Well, that's just bizarre and it does make you wonder about other theological issues.
BUT I don't think it's splitting hairs. BECAUSE if you add, subtract, don't take the Bible for what it says, take part of it as parable when it's not, how do you know the rest is true? How do you know what part is true?
mcdirector said:
Not wishing to put words in Kay's mouth, but I think people get it from Genesis 1:26-27 ending with God's creation of man. Then in Genesis 2:7 the Bible mentions God creating man again. I think some assume the man, Adam, in Genesis 2 was after the creation of the man in Genesis 1:26-27.
I do not believe this, but I think some do.
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mcdirector
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Cutter said:
Well, this one I've heard, but I was wondering if there was something else out there . . . You never know what's cropped up
standingfirminChrist
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It all boils down to God said... 'and the evening and the morning were the second day'
and satan said... 'Yea, and hath God said...'
Who ya gonna believe?
and satan said... 'Yea, and hath God said...'
Who ya gonna believe?
mcdirector
Active Member
I'm going to believe the Bible, I'm just curious why the question sprung up.
Magnetic Poles
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The pastor of an American Baptist Association chuch I used to attend believed in a pre-Adamic race which predated the chaos of Genesis' creation story.