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Earth Wind and Fire

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far more important to me though are issues such as abortion, alternate lifestyles, transgendering young children, allowing gangs ofillegal aliensd running rampant in society, how well do the Dems represent those issues?
I’m not a Dem so I don’t know….my concerns lie with the elderly and the poor struggling to find medical care, pay their rent and feed their families. As I said, in my own family I became the bread winner due to the fact there was no money coming in … my father died when I was 12 yo, my sister was cerebral palsy, my brother was quite young, my mother was having nervous break downs so I had to bring in money to keep a roof over my families head and food on the table (with spaghetti being our go to cheap affordable meal). We would even eat it heated on the stove for breakfast, lunch and dinner cause my grandmother sent it over the house in a carafe bowl once a week. I stole Cold cut meats from a place that served lunches…baloney loafs and then ground pickles in it for flavor. That helped stave off hunger. So I know something about growing up poor. So I can empathize with people who have to struggle and I believe they should not be the ones to suffer …. Let the rich pay up, not be given gifts. But so what ever doesn’t kill makes ya stronger…well I’m certainly resilient.
 

JesusFan

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I’m not a Dem so I don’t know….my concerns lie with the elderly and the poor struggling to find medical care, pay their rent and feed their families. As I said, in my own family I became the bread winner due to the fact there was no money coming in … my father died when I was 12 yo, my sister was cerebral palsy, my brother was quite young, my mother was having nervous break downs so I had to bring in money to keep a roof over my families head and food on the table (with spaghetti being our go to cheap affordable meal). We would even eat it heated on the stove for breakfast, lunch and dinner cause my grandmother sent it over the house in a carafe bowl once a week. I stole Cold cut meats from a place that served lunches…baloney loafs and then ground pickles in it for flavor. That helped stave off hunger. So I know something about growing up poor. So I can empathize with people who have to struggle and I believe they should not be the ones to suffer …. Let the rich pay up, not be given gifts. But so what ever doesn’t kill makes ya stronger…well I’m certainly resilient.
Our Lord Jesus Himself told us to help and assist the poor and needy among us, but my contention is that Big cities especially instead of spending billions a year to assist illegal's in their midst can and should support citizens for food and shelter and work
 

Rye

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As much as I do huh…how ignorant of you! You don’t know me but you shoot your mouth off then hide behind “supposed Christian values” how convenient of you… and then you add to your stinking thinking by saying you are realistic... really!

Now I see that hatred that @kyredneck was talking about.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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You certainly sound like a Marxist, they say this all the time. Conservatives don’t and libertarians certainly don’t.
Wrong again you Aussie…actually I’m a very Consertative Capitalist but I’m not going to be bullied into anything and this is how I view my countries predicament in supporting this Atavist and his sycophants who kiss his arse to gain attention. And you got allot to learn about politics, especially American politics… but why you have any interest I don’t know. Care to enlighten me.
 
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Earth Wind and Fire

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Our Lord Jesus Himself told us to help and assist the poor and needy among us, but my contention is that Big cities especially instead of spending billions a year to assist illegal's in their midst can and should support citizens for food and shelter and work
And I agree. But you must understand that people like Eric Adams was inviting illegals in mass and why you might well ask…because the Biden administration was funding them to enter NYC …a sanctuary city location. And I will go further with this, the RCC was also funding in transporting them, feeding & clothing them. Should we be looking into that as well?
 

JesusFan

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And I agree. But you must understand that people like Eric Adams was inviting illegals in mass and why you might well ask…because the Biden administration was funding them to enter NYC …a sanctuary city location. And I will go further with this, the RCC was also funding in transporting them, feeding & clothing them. Should we be looking into that as well?
Where is sanctuary city in the US Constitution though? As last I checked, the rights apply to us citizens and to those who while not citizens yet, are here legally
 

Cathode

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Wrong again you Aussie…actually I’m a very Consertative Capitalist but I’m not going to be bullied into anything and this is how I view my countries predicament in supporting this Atavist and his sycophants who kiss his arse to gain attention. And you got allot to learn about politics, especially American politics… but why you have any interest I don’t know. Care to enlighten me.

I think you need to give all your benefits to the poor and sick, as a “very conservative capitalist”, there are a lot of people really suffering in the cold streets out there.

I’ve been following US politics since Carter, seems their politics seriously effects our politics, we end up in every war the US gets into as well.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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I think you need to give all your benefits to the poor and sick, as a “very conservative capitalist”, there are a lot of people really suffering in the cold streets out there.

I’ve been following US politics since Carter, seems their politics seriously effects our politics, we end up in every war the US gets into as well.
Get ready
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Where is sanctuary city in the US Constitution though? As last I checked, the rights apply to us citizens and to those who while not citizens yet, are here legally
It’s not and I’m very supportive of Tom Holman and his initiatives. Again, Trump should be focusing on the Roman Catholic Church for supporting & transporting illegals into the USA. I’d like to see them take away their tax free status.
 

JesusFan

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It’s not and I’m very supportive of Tom Holman and his initiatives. Again, Trump should be focusing on the Roman Catholic Church for supporting & transporting illegals into the USA. I’d like to see them take away their tax free status.
Do not think that illegals though should take precedence over already American citizens
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Do not think that illegals though should take precedence over already American citizens
No one should take presidency over American citizens. I have an engineering friend living in NY in the day….i asked the same question to him ( A Filipino ) and he told me he is infatically opposed to allowing illegials enterence in the USA. He told me he sold his house in the Philippines, that he and his wife had worked and saved for 20 years, were put on a list to immigrate here blah blah so of course he felt thane to earn it, it’s not as easy to jump a fence…..and may I add it should not be put on sale for rich people to come in here. It has to be earned. So if you want to do 6 years in the military, prove you can learn English and you can matriculate into American society, that you are a hardworking US citizen, that you abide by our laws, and swear allegiance to the Constitution….then you have earned the right to be an American.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Do not think that illegals though should take precedence over already American citizens
BTW, do not mention that to a Roman Catholic that believes that anyone poor and destitute can come here, without have first passing thru the proper channels, payedthe fees, studied the history, and bothered to learn the language. They are generally bleeding heart liberals who believe that the existing citizens should pay their way here, feed them, give them homes to live in etc cause Jesus would want us to.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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BTW, do not mention that to a Roman Catholic that believes that anyone poor and destitute can come here, without have first passing thru the proper channels, payedthe fees, studied the history, and bothered to learn the language. They are generally bleeding heart liberals who believe that the existing citizens should pay their way here, feed them, give them homes to live in etc cause Jesus would want us to.
And just so you know this, I was raised up in the Roman Catholic Church and considered myself a Roman Catholic until I was 35 yo. There is a certain uneasiness in the way the common people in the pews view the magistrates ie the Bishops, the Cardinals etc. The people want a church that is simple in its views, honors family and respects others views. The church I was raised in is decidedly working class and we gave it our Sunday mornings, our children ( for catechism, religious schools, religious traditions) but something happened. Priests, were caught accosting our children, not content with practicing their homosexuality on one another in private, alcholic rooms were packed with unhappy addicted people in AA meetings, suicides were climbing, generally unhappy people disconnected from the church because it no longer fit the needs of the common people. So the church has an idea to fill in the blanks, supplant their waining and unhappy people falling away with the underclass from other poor countries bysircumventing the system. The result is what you see today…illegitimate border crossing … ie the invasion of America by the underclass.

So should the RCC bear the brunt of responsibility taking responsibility for this mess….heck yea cause they empowered it to happen.
 

Van

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I imagine a ring announcer, speaking into an overhead mike,
"Ladies and Gentlemen, boys and girls, in this corner we have the MAGA fighters, doing all they can to "make America great again" and in the opponents corner, we have the MAL fighters, doing all they can to "make America lousy."

About 80% of the audience cheered for the MAGA fighters, but an amazing 20% cheered for the crooks and thugs who said the Laptop had the earmarks of Russian disinformation. Not to mention, biological males should be allowed to compete in "girl" sports. And of course, the whopper, the border is secure. The 20% do not seem to realize their party is not the party of FDR, or JFK, but has been infiltrated by atheists who consistently attack Judaeo-Christian values.
 
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