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What are Landmark Baptists
- Thread starter Piper
- Start date
I first met Land-markers in Germany.
In the town I was stationed had SBC church and a Landmark church.
This was a doctrine, that I was not familiar. I never remember my home church
teaching or preaching on it. (I grew up in the North)
The Landmark did believed that you had to be a member of that individual church
to partake of communion. One evening, I was at the pastors home one night and we were discussing that doctrine. I asked him the reason for it. He told me that the church need to be assured that those partaking were of proper doctrine - which of course included salvation. So I asked him (not trying to be funny - but very serious) if a missionary they supported were to visit one Sunday - would they be permitted to partake. The pastor said no - because they were not a member. I then stated that if your church supported that missionary - wouldn't you know his doctrine statement? His wife said that was a very good question. The pastor never did give me an answer.
I will also mentioned - that after I joined the SBC church - there was a family (of eight) there who had attended the Landmark. But the pastor had told Harold that he had to be baptized since he was never baptized in a Baptist church. Harold told them that he was baptized in a fundamental Bible believing church. The pastor stood firm - they only accepted baptisms in a Baptist church. So Harold, Lois and the six kids started to attend the SBC church. ( I still send them Christmas cards)
One other thing - that Landmark was a mission church of the mother church in Landstuhl. Well, mama church told the mission that they had to come to mom church on Sunday evenings - some 30 miles away. The mission said no. Mom insisted. The mission stated - well, if you demand it - we will become independent - and you will be stuck with paying the rent - since you signed the contract. Well Mom - backed - but soon after that, they declared themselves independent anyways.
Wow - quite a Baptist thing going on!
In the town I was stationed had SBC church and a Landmark church.
This was a doctrine, that I was not familiar. I never remember my home church
teaching or preaching on it. (I grew up in the North)
The Landmark did believed that you had to be a member of that individual church
to partake of communion. One evening, I was at the pastors home one night and we were discussing that doctrine. I asked him the reason for it. He told me that the church need to be assured that those partaking were of proper doctrine - which of course included salvation. So I asked him (not trying to be funny - but very serious) if a missionary they supported were to visit one Sunday - would they be permitted to partake. The pastor said no - because they were not a member. I then stated that if your church supported that missionary - wouldn't you know his doctrine statement? His wife said that was a very good question. The pastor never did give me an answer.
I will also mentioned - that after I joined the SBC church - there was a family (of eight) there who had attended the Landmark. But the pastor had told Harold that he had to be baptized since he was never baptized in a Baptist church. Harold told them that he was baptized in a fundamental Bible believing church. The pastor stood firm - they only accepted baptisms in a Baptist church. So Harold, Lois and the six kids started to attend the SBC church. ( I still send them Christmas cards)
One other thing - that Landmark was a mission church of the mother church in Landstuhl. Well, mama church told the mission that they had to come to mom church on Sunday evenings - some 30 miles away. The mission said no. Mom insisted. The mission stated - well, if you demand it - we will become independent - and you will be stuck with paying the rent - since you signed the contract. Well Mom - backed - but soon after that, they declared themselves independent anyways.
Wow - quite a Baptist thing going on!
We have a SBC church in our area that says no baptism is accepted for transfer of membership except SBC baptism. Doesn't matter if it were Baptist (Independent, GARBC, etc.); Baptist baptism from elsewhere simply doesn't count, and rebaptism is required for membership (we didn't join there, obviously).
I would ask- show me in Scripture!
NEGATIVE! Doctrine listed in the Constitution - is to be based on the Bible! Re-baptizing is NOT in Scripture. What would you say if a church constitution stated you had to get born again a second time to join another church!
Or if it said you have to wear a dress to church?
Actually for some that is doctrine as Scripture states Not wearing what pertaing....
To them that (wearing a dress) is doctrine - but unless someone can show me in the Bible that Baptist baptism is the only true..... (unless you use the "John the Baptist...."
Yeah, the only way to support that is to have a really strange view of Hermeneutics. Its funny because it is almost always dispensationalists who say that and they will all say we are not under law but under grace. Except of course for the cherry picked verses that I like.