Originally posted by FriendofSpurgeon:
James --
Interesting. Here's my take on the links. Is this correct?
Salvation - Calvinistic - closer to Presbyterians compared to most Baptists.
Baptism - Similar to other Baptists with notable addition of washing feet
Lord's Table - Closed communion, with real wine. Not similar to anyone else I'm aware of.
Pastors - Elders, similar to Presbyterians, with notable exception that seminary education is not required (or desired?)
Music - No instruments - similar to Church of Christ.
Missions - Not anti-missions per se, but not involved with mission boards.
Other - No Sunday School or organized youth programs.
BTW, I'm in the Miami area. Not a lot of you down here, but then again, not a lot of evangelical churches here to begin with. For example, in my town we have eight houses of worship - one Methodist, one Lutheran, two Presbyterian, one Catholic and three temples.
Thanks for sharing the information.
FoS
FoS, sorry for not responding sooner. I just noticed your post.
I would say your description is pretty accurate. Many would refer to us as hyper-Calvinist, but I prefer your term of calvinistic rather than Calvinist since we are different than pure Calvinists.
I would also say that the Lord's Supper, as observed by the majority of us, is a Close communion, meaning that all churches with which we fellowship may partake. It is real wine, and real unleavened bread, and yes, we do wash feet. Many people shun us for that, but if you've never seen it, I could not describe to you the way the Spirit moves us when we humble ourselves to such a lowly position as washing our brethren's feet.
As far as seminary, it is not needed nor desired. We believe the biblical method for a man to learn is for him to come under the study of other ministers. We also believe it is for the church to decide if they see a gift in a man to preach. The problem with a seminary is that anyone can go and become a "licensed" preacher, even if they don't have a gift to preach the gospel. How many people are out there who have been to seminary, gotten a degree to signify they are a preacher, yet do not preach the gospel, not feel a burden to preach?
Our ordained ministers are called Elder, but we do not ordain women, unlike the Presbys.
Not anti-missions, although I really don't like that term, but we don't agree with having mission boards and such that will send a preacher here or there. A man is to go preach where he feels the Spirit sending him. This was a great cause for the split of Missionary Baptists and Primitive Baptists in 1832. see The Black Rock Address for more info on that.
We are very different from most modern Baptists. Most modern Baptists have adapted and changed with the opinions of the world around them in the past 200 years or so. We have pretty much stood where we always have. We are not very popular with most folks because we do not sensationalize everything and make it a big show. People also don't want to hear that, in an unregenerate state, we are completely dead in our sins with no way of helping ourselves. People don't want to hear that we are sinners by nature and practice and that our very nature is to go against the things of God. Those beliefs put all of the power to save us in God's hands, rather than man's. People don't like to think that we are helpless and can not save ourselves, but must depend solely on God.
A lot of people also don't like the true preaching of the gospel. They want a feel-good, self-esteem, I-have-the-power message. That's why places like Lakewood Church are so popular.
You just won't find that kind of stuff in an Old Baptist church.
After a quick search online, the nearest church I would recommend to you would be by Lake Okeechobee. Of course, I'm not all that familiar with the southern part of FL, so there might be others closer that I'm not aware of. I would love to find a church close to you that you could visit and see firsthand just who we Primitive Baptists are.
I'm going to contact the head of the Primitive Baptist Library in Illinois and see if he has any lisitngs for churches down that way. He has many that are not yet listed online.
I'll get back with you on that.
God bless.
Bro. James