what do you think?

It was fed-up catholics who brought down the Catholic church. I'm waiting for fed-up Muslims to unite & be visibly fighting the extremist problem, that Islam obviously has.

I don't see any reason to be nicer to people of mid-eastern descent, than any other race. That would mean I'm treating different races differently. I won't do it.

But Muslims could earn more of my respect by taking a more up-front role in purging their religion of violence, if that is truly what they want.

 

The biggest reason for so many folks to have insecurities around muslims is there is little to no speaking out against terrorism from them. They arent seperating themselves. So it is hard to know who is for it and who isnt. Not every muslim is for terrorism. But there are so many that are, when those that arent dont speak out against it publically it doesnt make it obvious who is and who is not.

 

Do you remember the author Salman Rushdie (I think I have his name right)? He tried writing a book about Islam and ended up with a death threat against him.........What about those who convert from Islam? They face death from their own families.......I think these actions speak for themselves about that religion.

Cheers,

Jim

 

After 9-11, I wanted to nuke all the Muslims. I then met many Muslims and Mid-Easterners who changed my mind and had my eyes open to the kind of tyranny they were under with the Taliban and Saddam. I saw them for the first time as the oppressed of the 21st century who were being liberated by America. If you want to see the point of view of Mid Easterners without the liberal bias of hollywood, check out the movie, "Osama", which was written by an Afgan and made into a movie right after the fall of the Taliban. Right now, I want America to destroy the radical Islamic Terrorists and liberate the rest. The problem is two fold for me:

1. Distinguishing the two: How do you distinguish who is really a terrorist marching in the streets of a tyrannical fear society against American infidels and who is just there out of fear of retribution?

2. I have also notice, as Vera did in the first post, that many Mid-Easterners and Muslims are very educated and seem to just want the American Dream. But, then again, I remember seeing interviews of folks who knew the terrorists of 9-11 and in England who said the same thing in shock about these people they thought they knew.

As much as I want to accept them and act like there is no fear of them in my life and mind, the reality is that there is still a lack of trust there. How do we know who are truly friends and who really want to kill us. I pray for God to give us wisdom to know the difference and the courage to trust again.

Joseph Botwinick

 

I agree -- having worked with Muslims in Kuwait and Bahrain, as well as training with a group of Indonesians that were mostly Muslim. We had common corporate goals and personal goals. I enjoyed their company and we all worked well together.

The secret is the common goal part. Without that even two people of the same (race, religion, nationality, sex -- whatever!) will disagree and perhaps fight to the death. Keep our common goals of peace, health and prosperity and not even differences of religion, race or nationality will keep us asunder.

 

duplicate, please delete.

 

Between 1990 and 2001, the number of Roman Catholics in the US increased by about 10.4%. Do you know how it went for your particular denomination?

Slightly more than half of all the Christians in the world are Roman Catholics.

"Down" doesn't seem very appropriate in that context, does it?

 

I just pray that 90% of the Catholics will come to know Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.

 

It was a very interesting book. It was a long time ago, but if memory serves, it is a story about two men who fall out of an airplane, and the conversation they had on the way down.

But remember, the RCC killed a few infidels in their time, as well. I'm glad that didn't stop good men like Martin Luther.

 

If we are to be honest, evangelicals of the day, were not above putting to death a few people either...there were quite a few in England alone, not to mention New England. Calvin himself was guilty of acting in behalf of the state against those who disagreed with him.

Seems to be the way of man, by times.

Cheers,

Jim

 

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


I'll pray I have the faith to remember that verse, should the need arise.

 

We, as Catholics pray that 100% of Baptists come to know Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.

Standards, you know... :laugh:

 

Standards being what they are

. . . at least you came close to claiming Christ as your Savior - I pray that you have come closer to that than you have in claiming the Church as your Savior . . .