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What is the Bread of God...

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by richard n koustas, Jun 21, 2005.

  1. richard n koustas

    richard n koustas New Member

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    ...in the OT? Here is all the references that I can find:

    Lev 21:6 They shall be holy unto their God, and not profane the name of their God: for the offerings of the LORD made by fire, [and] the bread of their God, they do offer: therefore they shall be holy.

    Lev 21:8 Thou shalt sanctify him therefore; for he offereth the bread of thy God: he shall be holy unto thee: for I the LORD, which sanctify you, [am] holy.

    Lev 21:17 Speak unto Aaron, saying, Whosoever [he be] of thy seed in their generations that hath [any] blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God.

    Lev 21:21 No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God.

    Lev 21:22 He shall eat the bread of his God, [both] of the most holy, and of the holy.

    Lev 22:25 Neither from a stranger's hand shall ye offer the bread of your God of any of these; because their corruption [is] in them, [and] blemishes [be] in them: they shall not be accepted for you.


    Eze 44:7 In that ye have brought [into my sanctuary] strangers, uncircumcised in heart, and uncircumcised in flesh, to be in my sanctuary, to pollute it, [even] my house, when ye offer my bread, the fat and the blood, and they have broken my covenant because of all your abominations.

    Is it the 'fat and the blood'? Wasn't eating the fat and blood fobidden? How does John 6:33 fit?

    Jhn 6:33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.
     
  2. jdcanady

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    It seems to concern part of the ritual sacrifices, perhaps the "grain offering" is what is being referred to.

    The fat and the blood were burned on the altar, wiht incense, as an offering.
     
  3. richard n koustas

    richard n koustas New Member

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    maybe, but i cannot find any link between the 'grain offereing' and the 'bread of God'.
    Do you have a reference? I cannot find where incense was burned with the fat and the blood.

    The phrase "bread of God" seems to come out of nowhere. it is not mentioned in the instructions for the sacrifices, but mentioned in the instructions for the priest.
     
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    The "bread of God" was the shewbread offered in the Holy of Holies.

    "And you shall take fine flour and bake twelve cakes with it. Two-tenths of an ephah shall be in each cake. You shall set them in two rows, six in a row, on the pure gold table before the LORD. And you shall put pure frankincense on each row, that it may be on the bread for a memorial, an offering made by fire to the LORD. Every Sabbath he shall set it in order before the LORD continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an everlasting covenant. And it shall be for Aaron and his sons, and they shall eat it in a holy place; for it is most holy to him from the offerings of the LORD made by fire, by a perpetual statute. (Lev. 24:5-9)
     
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  6. richard n koustas

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    okay, that makes one vote for the shewbread, one vote for the meal offering...and...the John 6 reference seems to be a vote for manna.

    i may have been reading Ezekiel 44:7 wrong. "... my bread, the fat and the blood..." it sounded like the fat and blood were the bread.
     
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    "John 6 reference seems to be a vote for manna"

    No, a little more along the lines of Christ unless my trifocals need cleaning. Just thought you might want to consider it in light of your study.
     
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    The shewbread (or Bread of the Presence) was an offering presented to God by Israel. In John 6, Jesus identifies Himself as the Bread of God sent as a sacrifice sent from the Father.

    Jesus then said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, it was not Moses who gave you the bread from heaven, but my Father gives you the true bread from heaven. For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world." John 6:32-33, ESV.
     
  9. richard n koustas

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    I know that Jesus IS the bread of God.....The original question was "What is the bread of God...in the Old Testament?"

    I am trying to connect Jesus (as the bread in John 6) with a particular OT type.
     
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    Perhaps the unleavened bread of the Passover?

    Leaven being a type of sin we then have represented by the Passover, The Lamb of God (without spot or blemish), the bread from heaven without sin.

    HankD
     
  11. TexasSky

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    NIV translates Leviticus 21:6 as

    "They must be holy to their God, and must not profane the name of their God, because they reprsent the offerings made to the Lord by fire, the food of their God.

    Does that help at all? Or just add to the confusion?
     
  12. richard n koustas

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    I read in a commnetary last night that the bread of God, or, as sky points out from the niv, the food of God, was, the portion of the sacrifice that was to be eaten by the priest. this means that the bread of the peace offering would have been the right shoulder and breast meat of the sacrificed animal and that there was no bread in the burnt offering, since the animal was totally consumed... This seems to make sense in light of all the references in Lev. 21 and 22.

    in light of the nt, we are the priest. as the ot priest were instructed to eat a portion of [some of] the sacrifices, we are instructed to partake of Christ - symbolized in the 'bread'. does this make sense?

    thanks for all your replies....
     
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    JESUS says:


    John
    6:48
    I am that bread of life.


    6:51
    I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.


    6:53
    Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.


    6:54
    Whoso eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, has eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
     
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    The shewbread was a type of Christ.
     
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    did anyone see perry stone when he spoke about the manna in the OT as a type of Christ? The description of the manna (looks like a pearl white BB pellet with darkened cream strpies). Just as the manna was stripped Jesus was stripped (39 lashes, wounded) for our transgressions. Just as the OT commanded the people of Israel to grind or crush the manna to make bread so was Jesus broken (bruised) for our iniquity. Just as it was life saving substance so was Jesus broken for our life)
     
  16. richard n koustas

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    yes, i happened to catch p. stone on that day. i have heard most of what he said before, but the 'stripes' was new and very interesting. actually each of the breads listed in this thread is a type of Christ.
     
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