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What text version did Paul quote???

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by JesusIsLord, Feb 17, 2003.

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  1. JesusIsLord

    JesusIsLord New Member

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    Hi there!

    I have heard some KJVOs say: The KJV was good enough for Paul, so it is good enough for me! Well, I think no one really believes that Paul used a KJV but this statement indicates that there are certain arguments that the text Paul was using is similar to the KJV-text (Old Testament). But I also heard other Christians say that Paul quoted only from the LXX. What is true? Can somebody give me some information? :confused:

    Alex

    [ February 18, 2003, 03:48 AM: Message edited by: JesusIsLord ]
     
    #1 JesusIsLord, Feb 17, 2003
  2. RaptureReady

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    #2 RaptureReady, Feb 18, 2003
  3. Pastor Larry

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    The KJV was not good enough for Paul. He did not quote it. He quoted most likely teh LXX but we cannot be sure. What we can be sure of is that it was not the KJV. The page referenced by Homebound is a humorous attempt to spin a insurmountable problem for their position.
     
    #3 Pastor Larry, Feb 18, 2003
  4. Steve K.

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    There is no such thing as the LXX.Read Gipps book
    "The answer book" and find the truth.
    biblebelievers.com is the place for truth.
     
    #4 Steve K., Feb 18, 2003
  5. BrianT

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    No such thing? Then what's that big book sitting on my shelf???

    BTW, I think there is no such thing as Gipp's "The answer book". :D
     
    #5 BrianT, Feb 18, 2003
  6. Steve K.

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    That big book on your shelf is a match set to the other fakes you have.The KJV is the word of God.
     
    #6 Steve K., Feb 18, 2003
  7. BrianT

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    Ah, so I can either believe *you* that only the KJV is the word of God and that the LXX doesn't exist, or I can believe the KJV translators that say the LXX exists and is even the word of God. Hmmmm... let me think...... how to choose, how to choose......
     
    #7 BrianT, Feb 18, 2003
  8. Pete Richert

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    A book in the NT that relies heavily on the LXX is Hebrews. Almost all of its quotes are exact wording from the LXX and different from the Hebrew (in places).

    By the way, if you think Hebrews qoutes from the Herbew text (or the KJV OT in your case) please do find them in the OT in the wording giving in Hebrews. That will be a fun little job.
     
    #8 Pete Richert, Feb 18, 2003
  9. Steve K.

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    Tell the truth Brian. Don't be nasty.
     
    #9 Steve K., Feb 18, 2003
  10. Steve K.

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    There is no such thing as the LXX. It was a lie from the beginning and still is.
     
    #10 Steve K., Feb 18, 2003
  11. BrianT

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    OK, here's the truth: I'll believe the KJV translators instead of you. [​IMG]
     
    #11 BrianT, Feb 18, 2003
  12. Steve K.

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    Brian take a deep breath and listen to yourself for a minute.You constantly contradict yourself.
    Repeat after me"The KJV is the word of God."
    Good!
     
    #12 Steve K., Feb 18, 2003
  13. BrianT

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    Where did I contradict myself?

    The KJV is the word of God. The very meanest translation of the Bible in English containeth the word of God, nay, is the word of God. And so is the LXX. [​IMG]
     
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  14. Johnv

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    What version Paul used is irrelevant to the fact that the KJV does not prefectly translate the Greek and Hebrew to English. No version does.
     
    #14 Johnv, Feb 18, 2003
  15. Ransom

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    KING JAMES AV 1611 said:

    Read Gipps book "The answer book" and find the truth.

    Gipp . . . Isn't he the guy who claims that Westcott and Hort were closet Catholics by dishonestly quoting a letter of Westcott which, when read in full, says exactly the opposite?

    Please don't use the words "Gipp" and "truth" in the same sentence, as it makes my head hurt.
     
    #15 Ransom, Feb 18, 2003
  16. Steve K.

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    That is not true or possible Brian because the LXX was a lie from the beginning and in reality does not exist.
     
    #16 Steve K., Feb 18, 2003
  17. Ransom

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    So it's kind of like a perfect KJV in that regard.

    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
    #17 Ransom, Feb 18, 2003
  18. Steve K.

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    Only to a person who rejects truth Ransom. If the shoe fits..
     
    #18 Steve K., Feb 18, 2003
  19. Ransom

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    KING JAMES AV 1611 said:

    Only to a person who rejects truth Ransom.

    Are you saying that reality depends on what I believe about it?

    Are you some kind of postmodernist fruitcake?
     
    #19 Ransom, Feb 18, 2003
  20. Steve K.

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    Truth is the KJV. Reality is that the KJV is the word of God.
     
    #20 Steve K., Feb 18, 2003
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