Featured What Would You Do [drinking issues]?

If it were Friday night instead of Sunday lunch would the situation be different?

 

You should have given them a copy of your poll and told them that you need to wait to see what the "consensus" says before you decide what is right in dealing with them.:smilewinkgrin:

 

This sort of direct confrontation seems to be missing from the OP's options:

From Spurgeon's Autobiography [a grateful man is recounting how Spurgeon burst into a tavern and confronted him]:

"he points at me with his finger, just so, and says, "What doest thou here, Elijah? Sitting with the ungodly; and you a member of a church, and breaking your pastor's heart. I'm ashamed of you! I wouldn't break my pastor's heart, I'm sure." And then he walks away. Well, I did feel angry; but I knew it was all true, and I was guilty; so I put down my pipe, and did not touch my beer, but hurried away to a lonely spot, and cast myself down before the Lord, confessing my sin and begging for forgiveness."

 

I guess it would depend on the churches covenant or by-laws. If it breaks these then they need to be confronted but not in public, I would wait until a meeting was scheduled.

 

Spurgeon's problem seemed to have been with the environment the man was in, not that he was smoking or drinking. That was in a tavern. A bit of a different environment than the nice restaurant imagined in the OP isn't it?

 

Really? :BangHead: You aren't "just asking" anything. Equating drinking with adultery... YGTBKM...

 

I personally believe it to be alright in moderation, so I wouldn't say anything. Or, say I was totally against it...in that case I'd feel it was between them and God, none of my business.

 

I would ignore it. I do not think drinking is a sin as the Bible does not teach that it is. The Bible teaches that DRUNKENNESS is a sin.

 

You hit the nail on the head. People need to learn to mind their own business on this issue and STOP ASSUMING that everyone whom has a drink in moderation will fall into sin.

And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. (Genesis 14:18)

And the vine said unto them, Should I leave my wine, which cheereth God and man, and go to be promoted over the trees? (Judges 9:13)

And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart. (Psalm 104:15)

He makes grass grow for the cattle, and plants for man to cultivate--bringing forth food from the earth: wine that gladdens the heart of man, oil to make his face shine, and bread that sustains his heart. (Psalm 104:14-15, NIV)

Go, eat your food with gladness, and drink your wine with a joyful heart, for it is now that God favors what you do. (Ecclesiastes 9:7, NIV)

Jesus saith unto them, "Fill the waterpots with water." And they filled them up to the brim. And he saith unto them, "Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast." And they bare it. When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew the governor of the feast called the bridegroom, And saith unto him, "Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now." (John 2:7-10)

Not given to wine. (1 Timothy 3:3)
Likewise must the deacons be not given to much wine. (1 Timothy 3:8)

No longer drink water exclusively, but use a little wine for the sake of your
stomach and your frequent ailments. (1 Timothy 5:23)

 

Whatsoever is not of Faith is sin

"It is not what goes in that defiles, but what comes out."

"Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging."

Where does it say alcohol improves spiritual discernment?

"A little leaven leavens the whole lump."

Moses had a problem with the fruit of the vine--cursed be Canaan.

When one considers the history of alcohol and its overall effect on society, which continues through today, one might conclude Satan is using such as a stumbling block.

Sin in moderation is still sin.

Which ones are the Christians? They all look and act the same as the world.

I have seen social alcohol destroy many in my family. Best leave it alone in any circumstance.

Go to an AA meeting before you decide.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James

 

The very minute one becomes the least bit "buzzed" one has sinned.

 

Unless it violates a church rule or covenant or is inconsistent with his publicly-stated position, it is none of your business.

If the temptation to butt in cannot be resisted, at least don't resort to gossip; but speak with the individual quietly and privately, then a witness, etc. Cannot think of the reference, but the protocol is somewhere in the New Testament for confronting a brother over sin.

Not all have the same opinion about alcohol.

 

The daughter of a couple in my SS class became addicted in her younger years to alcohol due to seeing a very prominent lady of their church drinking, ergo, assuming that it was OK.

From what I gather, she had quite a struggle overcoming the problem, but at this point is in control!?

I don't know any more than that, but how much blame would you put on the lady - for causing the stumbling of another - versus the daughter for her choice to emulate an elder????

Don't touch the stuff myself, but frankly I have tipped the glass a few time in the dim dark past, and am afraid that if I made it a habit could become one of "those" addicts!! So, for that reason, AND any possible influence I could have had on my kids and others now, I totally abstain.

This is my choice, but I'm not going to condemn you if you choose differently; cause I have yet for anyone to cite scripture that says "DO NOT DRINK ALCOHOL!"

 

Do we also check to make sure they do not have cable tv, nor taking theirfaliies out to movies?


If they were having A beer, or glass of wine, would be within their liberty, bit now if they are ob?viously sloshed and drunk?