In the previous thread " the doctrine by which the church stands and falls, I was asked by Doubting Thomas about some questions, but I was late by 1 minute to post my answer before it was closed since I was busy in the meantime.
So, I would continue some of the points at least on the issue of NT.
Throughout the churches, we may not have the sufficient evidence to claim any theory but the discussion may be useful to understand the whole truth.
My belief is that Moses wrote the Pentateuch and the OT except Daniel and Malachi was compiled by Ezra and those two books were added later and accepted as the Bible as we read NT quotes them.
Now the main question is when the NT was complete and was accepted by the churches? Please note I don't use the word " canon " or canonized.
My belief is that Apostle John did it as he lived by the end of 1 century. Apostle John outlived Mary and took care of her, but never called her as Mother of God in his epistle, never mentioned she ascended after the death, etc.
Read the followings:
[FONT=바탕]The last of the apostles to pass away was John. His death is usually placed about 100 A. D. In his closing days, he cooperated in the collecting and forming of those writings we call the New Testament.fa16 An ordinary careful reading of Acts, Chapter 15, will prove the scrupulous care with which the early church guarded her sacred writings. And so well did Gods true people through the ages agree on what was Scripture and what was not, that no general council of the church, until that of Trent (1645) dominated by the Jesuits, dared to say anything as to what books should comprise the Bible or what texts were or were not spurious[/FONT]
[FONT=바탕]While John lived, heresy could make no serious headway. He had hardly passed away, however, before perverse teachers infested the Christian Church. The doom of heathenism, as a controlling force before the superior truths of Christianity, was soon foreseen by all. These years were times which saw the New Testament books corrupted in abundance.[/FONT]
[FONT=바탕]In southern France, when in 177 A.D. the Gallic Christians were frightfully massacred by the heathen, a record of their suffering was drawn up by the survivors and sent, not to the Pope of Rome, but to their brethren in Asia Minor Milman claims that the French received their Christianity from Asia Minor.[/FONT]
[FONT=바탕]These apostolic Christians in southern France were undoubtedly those who gave effective help in carrying the Gospel to Great Britain.f25 And as we have seen above, there was a long and bitter struggle between the Bible of the British Christians and the Bible which was brought later to England by the missionaries of Rome. And as there were really only two Bibles, the official version of Rome, and the Received Text, we may safely conclude that the Gallic (or French) Bible, as well as the Celtic (or British), were the Received Text. Neander claims, as follows, that the first Christianity in England, came not from Rome, but from Asia Minor, probably through France:[/FONT]
[FONT=바탕]The Reformers held that the Waldensian Church was formed about 120 A.D., from which date on, they passed down from father to son the teachings they received from the apostles.f39 The Latin Bible, the Italic, was translated from the Greek not later than 157 A.D.f40 We are indebted to Beza, the renowned associate of Calvin, for the statement that the Italic Church dates from 120 A.D. [/FONT]
[FONT=바탕]From the illustrious group of scholars which gathered round Beza, 1590 A.D., we may understand how the Received Text was the bond of union between great historic churches. [/FONT]
[FONT=바]http://www.sdadefend.com/Living-Word/Wilkinson/AuthorizedBibleTOC.htm[/FONT]
Apostle Paul mentioned he preached the gospel up to Illyricum ( Yugoslavia) ( Romans 15:19) and we hear that China discovered the Christian monument dating back to Emperor Muje of Dynasty Han which means 86 AD. I am very sure that the Early Church believers were not so lazy as the modern believers are ( I believe today's believers are like Laodicean church). They were dilligently devoting themselves for the Lord Jesus Christ and carried the Bible to Alps even before 100AD, even earlier than 157AD.
I am sure there are some more documents on the Old Latin. If you have any more Info. Please try to share on this board.
So, I would continue some of the points at least on the issue of NT.
Throughout the churches, we may not have the sufficient evidence to claim any theory but the discussion may be useful to understand the whole truth.
My belief is that Moses wrote the Pentateuch and the OT except Daniel and Malachi was compiled by Ezra and those two books were added later and accepted as the Bible as we read NT quotes them.
Now the main question is when the NT was complete and was accepted by the churches? Please note I don't use the word " canon " or canonized.
My belief is that Apostle John did it as he lived by the end of 1 century. Apostle John outlived Mary and took care of her, but never called her as Mother of God in his epistle, never mentioned she ascended after the death, etc.
Read the followings:
[FONT=바탕]The last of the apostles to pass away was John. His death is usually placed about 100 A. D. In his closing days, he cooperated in the collecting and forming of those writings we call the New Testament.fa16 An ordinary careful reading of Acts, Chapter 15, will prove the scrupulous care with which the early church guarded her sacred writings. And so well did Gods true people through the ages agree on what was Scripture and what was not, that no general council of the church, until that of Trent (1645) dominated by the Jesuits, dared to say anything as to what books should comprise the Bible or what texts were or were not spurious[/FONT]
[FONT=바탕]While John lived, heresy could make no serious headway. He had hardly passed away, however, before perverse teachers infested the Christian Church. The doom of heathenism, as a controlling force before the superior truths of Christianity, was soon foreseen by all. These years were times which saw the New Testament books corrupted in abundance.[/FONT]
[FONT=바탕]In southern France, when in 177 A.D. the Gallic Christians were frightfully massacred by the heathen, a record of their suffering was drawn up by the survivors and sent, not to the Pope of Rome, but to their brethren in Asia Minor Milman claims that the French received their Christianity from Asia Minor.[/FONT]
[FONT=바탕]These apostolic Christians in southern France were undoubtedly those who gave effective help in carrying the Gospel to Great Britain.f25 And as we have seen above, there was a long and bitter struggle between the Bible of the British Christians and the Bible which was brought later to England by the missionaries of Rome. And as there were really only two Bibles, the official version of Rome, and the Received Text, we may safely conclude that the Gallic (or French) Bible, as well as the Celtic (or British), were the Received Text. Neander claims, as follows, that the first Christianity in England, came not from Rome, but from Asia Minor, probably through France:[/FONT]
[FONT=바탕]The Reformers held that the Waldensian Church was formed about 120 A.D., from which date on, they passed down from father to son the teachings they received from the apostles.f39 The Latin Bible, the Italic, was translated from the Greek not later than 157 A.D.f40 We are indebted to Beza, the renowned associate of Calvin, for the statement that the Italic Church dates from 120 A.D. [/FONT]
[FONT=바탕]From the illustrious group of scholars which gathered round Beza, 1590 A.D., we may understand how the Received Text was the bond of union between great historic churches. [/FONT]
[FONT=바]http://www.sdadefend.com/Living-Word/Wilkinson/AuthorizedBibleTOC.htm[/FONT]
Apostle Paul mentioned he preached the gospel up to Illyricum ( Yugoslavia) ( Romans 15:19) and we hear that China discovered the Christian monument dating back to Emperor Muje of Dynasty Han which means 86 AD. I am very sure that the Early Church believers were not so lazy as the modern believers are ( I believe today's believers are like Laodicean church). They were dilligently devoting themselves for the Lord Jesus Christ and carried the Bible to Alps even before 100AD, even earlier than 157AD.
I am sure there are some more documents on the Old Latin. If you have any more Info. Please try to share on this board.
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