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Who is at Guantanamo?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by npc, Oct 6, 2006.

  1. npc

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    http://law.shu.edu/news/guantanamo_report_final_2_08_06.pdf

    Someone remind me why we shouldn't give these people due process?
     
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    Because they are not American citizens....for one. Notice how we gave American citizen aka Taliban John Walker Lindh due process.....even after he killed CIA agent Johnny Spann in Afghanistan.....
     
  3. npc

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    I said "should", not "are legally obliged to". Do Americans have some innate right to not be arbitrarily imprisoned that other humans lack?
     
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    Yes, it's call the US Constitution and the Writ of Habeas Corpus.
     
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    Maybe after the elections. You think Bush is going to give these people due process just before elections, and let the facts come out in court?
     
  6. npc

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    So rights come only from legal documents?
     
  7. Daisy

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    Why do you believe that Lindh killed Spann when Lindh seems to have been handcuffed and shot in the leg during the prisoner revolt? Lindh was not charged with that.

    Shouldn't we follow the treaties we agreed upon such as the Geneva Conventions? Is it right to ignore international law when we are overseas?
     
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    The Geneva Convention Treaty doesnt cover terrorists. Their tactics are illegal even under conditions of war.
     
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    The problem is that many of those held at Guantanamo aren't terrorists.
     
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    Here is a solution. Bury them up to their necks in a field then bushhog.
     
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    This is "data" taken from limited information. it isnt full and clear. ​

     
  12. Daisy

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    Of course, terroristic tactics are illegal, but that doesn't excuse our ignoring the treaty. They would be covered under the criminal provisions. There is nothing such as "enemy combatant" defined in it - the Bush administration just made that up to get around the actual definitions.

    And, what npc said.
     
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    Terrorists do not fall under the description of those wo are elligble under the treaty. It doesnt give room for just anyone.
     
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    Sez who ? The media ?
     
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    While NPC was willing to post the list NPC failed to post the information from the same article that the list was put together from incomplete information. So we cannot be sure the list is accurate. And most likely it isnt.:BangHead:
     
  16. Terry_Herrington

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    You don't understand. These men are terrorists because the Bush administration says they are terrorists.:rolleyes:

    I believe that when it comes to anyone even suspected of being a terrorist you will find that Revmitchell completely loses all credibility. He doesn't seem to even care if the innocent are condemned with the guilty.

    Kind of ironic, in a perverted sort of way, considering he is a Reverend.
     
  17. Daisy

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    You haven't read them, have you?
     
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    The report is based on the government's records.
     
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    Every point made in that list is verifiable fact.
     
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    Many of the prisoners would have already been released if we could find a country that would accept them.

    Wonder why nobody wants them?
     
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