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Who knew what ?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Bro. Curtis, Oct 4, 2006.

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  1. Bro. Curtis

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    First, I stand by my assertion that Foley be hung. But it's looking like some folks knew about this, and decided to put children's safety on the back burner, and go for a political attack, instead.

    What we know now...

    Radical Gay Rights Activists held on to information about Representative Foley for months and years. These "Rights Activists" knew that representative Foley had relationships with "young men less than half his age." They did their own investigation on Foley. They even flew in their sources in to be interviewed about the Representative. They shared this information with the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. They held on to the information for over a year. They wrote about how they would break the story at midterm elections.

    MORE:
    These you must read to catch up on the story...
    MacsMind - Foleygate Part IV
    MacsMind - Foleygate Part V

    QandO Blog now has evidence that John Aravosis (the radical gay activist from AmericaBlog- "He deserves to be publicly excoriated." 7-2004) had copies of the emails "months ago!"

    This is important from Macsmind-


    "However, I do know that the specific focus of the FBI at this point is to determine who knew about Foley’s activities, when they knew it and specifically who withheld evidence in what may be a Federal Crime. Yet like in many investigations, there is sometimes the uncovering of other crimes that takes place. It should be said at this point that the attempt to extort or influence, or threaten a US congressman, in order to influence legislation, or an election is a Federal Crime, and if in fact principals were involved in such an orchestrated plan it will be discovered."

    Again, I must point out that even as a constituant of former respresentitive Foley, I detest his actions, and do not condone and accept them in anyway. In fact I support his prosecution if applicable laws have been broken. But again, those who particpated before the fact in the “outing” of Foley, seem to have had at this point specific knowledge of his activities and if proven at the least are guilty of conspriracy to withhold evidence, and obstruction of justice. ​
    Sweetness and Light reported on the Mike Rogers connection on Sunday:


    Well the good news is that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee is finally getting it. I called their Director of Communications, Bill Burton, before the Foley story broke to let him know about Foley (and another case) were coming down the pike. While Burton promised to have someone email or return my call and didn't, I am glad he followed up on my call and was ready on Friday to come out of the gate running.

    The bad new is they are still not paying enough attention... There are others within reach... If the Democrats would only fight half as hard as the Republicans.​
    Thomas Lifson at The American Thinker has more.


    According to Lifson, Aravosis (one of the known liberals outing gay congress people) said he obtained the latest information about the five-term congressman from Foley’s former chief of staff, Kirk Fordham.

    QUESTION - Did Fordham have acccess to Foley’s IM account information, screen name and password? Very likely. Could he have passed this information onto Aravosis and Rogers? Very possible. Could some of the IMs been manufactured then by Rogers or Aravosis, those being reported by ABC. Probable.

    We know someone logged onto Foley’s IM account yesterday when he was in a treatment center for 20-30 seconds, according to Fox News. Could this have been Rogers or Aravosis? ​
    Wild Bill at Passionate America has big news he is reporting at 4:00 PM CST today.
    Look for that!

    ** And, then there is this BOMBSHELL from Clarice...


    Dick Morris just said on FOX that a respected reporter told him that she has proof that a senior democrat member of congress knew about the IMs months ago–unlike Hastert.​
    Political Pit Bull has the Dick Morris video clip.

    That would not look so good for the donkeys now would it? Especially considering the Republicans have been carpet bombed by the democrats/media the last couple of weeks!

    Also, keep an eye on The Strata-Sphere.
    Right Wing Nuthouse is also on the story.
    HotAir on "Saving IM Messages 101."

    This could get real messy!

    One other point-
    ABC's Ross made it sound like the IM's came from a "Republican". Mike Rogers calls himself a Republican(?) This would make sense.

    World Net Daily is on the story.

    Previously:
    The Foley Fallout
    Foley Fallout: What We Know Now
    Foleygate! Altered Images! What's Going On Here?
    Foleygate: What Stunk Like a Rat, Was a Democ-Rat!
    If Gay Activists & Democrats Knew of Foley, Why Were They Silent?

    http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/10/get-your-lawyers-foleygate-scandal.html
     
    #1 Bro. Curtis, Oct 4, 2006
  2. Revmitchell

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    Chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp:smilewinkgrin:
     
    #2 Revmitchell, Oct 4, 2006
  3. KenH

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    Hung over inappropriate emails and instant messages?

    Wow! Sounds like the French Revolution and the guillotine all over again.
     
    #3 KenH, Oct 4, 2006
  4. Bro. Curtis

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    Yup. Death to child predators.

    Any comment on the articles ?
     
    #4 Bro. Curtis, Oct 4, 2006
  5. Blammo

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    I am just a bit more merciful. I believe the pervert ought to be in prison for life. We have seen where this kind of behavior leads. If he was hung, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. If some other perverts had been hung in the past, we would have seen less stories about dead children who were killed by their molesters.
     
    #5 Blammo, Oct 4, 2006
  6. KenH

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    I am not surprised that this matter has been misused for political purposes.

    Foley definitely needed to resign from Congress. Whether he should be prosecuted depends upon whether he broke a law.

    I am not joining the lynch mob that is after the GOP House leadership as I think the matter needs to be investigated further at this point.
     
    #6 KenH, Oct 4, 2006
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    #7 The Galatian, Oct 4, 2006
  8. Pastor Larry

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    If I recall correctly, Hastert did know about inappropriate emails. He investigated them and was told by the family involved that they did not want it public. In cooperation with the victim, Hastert appears to have done what he could have done, and told Foley to cease all contact (not just inappropriate contact) immediately.

    He says he did not know about explicit IMs and emails. As much as you like to disregard the truth in favor of political bashing of Republicans, Galatian, we would all be better served to wait and find out the truth.
     
    #8 Pastor Larry, Oct 5, 2006
  9. Brother Bob

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    Everyone taking up for some now are going to have to eat their words in a few days when it all comes out.
     
    #9 Brother Bob, Oct 5, 2006
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    One does not have to wait a few days. The character of those in charge of republicans and democrats is quite apparant. Your treasure is where your heart is, and theirs is not with caring about the American people, its with their power.
     
    #10 saturneptune, Oct 5, 2006
  11. Pastor Larry

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    How do you know? If you know for sure what will come out, just tell us now, and prove it.

    I think you might be making some stuff up. I have not seen anyone "taking up" for someone. Perhaps I have missed it.

    What I have seen is two groups: 1) Those who judge without full knowledge of the facts, and 2) Those who say let's get the facts before we pass judgment.

    You seem willing to depend on your ignorance of the facts to pass judgment on people who may indeed be innocent of wrongdoing, and then it will be you who will have to eat your words.

    For the life of me, I don't understand why getting to the truth before passing judgment is so anathema to some of you. It makes no sense. If people knowingly covered this up, then there will plenty of time to excoriate them and call for their resignation. If they have done nothing wrong, then you will be guilty of slander, all because you spoke without knowledge.

    So tell me, why are you opposed to waiting for condemnation until the investigation takes place and we know what actually happened?
     
    #11 Pastor Larry, Oct 5, 2006
  12. KenH

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    Yep. The Democrats want power back and the Republicans want to keep power. That's about all there is to it.
     
    #12 KenH, Oct 5, 2006
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