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I wish American "Christians" would stop trying to use Christian and American synonymously.

Who cares if a court of unbelievers allows unbelievers to act like unbelievers?

Why do Christians feel shocked when sinful men sin, when God says they are slaves to sin?

OMG !! They're acting according to their nature, and have been given over to a reprobate mind. Let's all sit around and wonder how that could be.


What did Paul wrote? -----> and such were some of you. But you've been washed.

 

Amen!!

We got where we are in part because a bunch of folks who fancy themselves to be evangelical Christians have forgotten how to love. They spend more time coming up with conspiracies and reasons to excoriate a President and anyone who doesn't see things the way they do.

So instead of the fragrance of Christ, we exude the fragrance of death.

So if we're pointing them to death instead of Christ, why are we surprised that wickedness seems to be on the increase as our love wanes?

12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, Mat. 24:12

 

Very good post.

 

Which hasn't happened or will happen according to the events of yesterday.

 

It's early yet. Let's wait and see. I wouldn't be surprised to see it.

 

Indeed. I don't think the LGTBQ+ crowd is done. Not by a long shot. Remember, since they cannot reproduce, they must indoctrinate. Pretty soon they'll demand more of a presence in public education. They will want Andy Warhol on the $10 bill. More AIDS money. They will demand to be included in EVERY parade in our country....like the St Patrick's Day parade we had in Cincy, organized by the RCC arch diocese which refused to let them in the parade. This caused a stink. So I'm sure the LGTBQ+ crowd will sue over that one.

Bake the cake or you and your business will be destroyed. Cater the wedding or be destroyed. Let us use your church for our wedding or be destroyed. Your pastor will marry us or be sued/imprisoned. Be "open-minded" or be crushed.

Ah, the face of tolerance.

 

Foolish statement. This country was once run bu godly men and not has gone far away. We should all want our churches, homes, communities, states, and country to be run by godly people and uphold godly standards. There is no conflict with this desire and the gospel.

 

And you know this how? Why is your view more credible that that of four justices on the SC who say otherwise.

 

Sounds like biblical, God-ordained persecution of the Elect. But not all believers will embrace the call to being conformed to the image of Christ.

1Peter 2:21

Such a shame that preachers and other supposedly "learned" believers don't understand the scriptures concerning this....or care more about fleshly things than spiritual things

 

You want to create a righteous world through politics, when it has long been promised that only Christ Himself will accomplish it.

So what if this country was founded by people who are now dead? Can one generation mandate the spiritual condition of those who come later? This country is chocked full of unbelievers who are slaves to sin.



I feel sorry for the flock who is being misled by you.

 

I would see this as a direct violation of the US Constitution:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

The most likely action(s) would be taken by the IRS in the removal of tax exempt status. If that happens....

 

Let them take IRS tax exempt status. Maybe then some preachers will cease to be invertebrates and start preaching.

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I wonder if churches need to take steps to modify their constitution so that the pastor(s) is(are) not making some statement of refusal as a matter of personal belief (whether it is or not).

The constitution (and statement of faith) would allow for a more precise and document supported argument when challenged in the legal system because there would certainly be specific Scriptures attached. For the courts to bring an argument, they would then have to discredit the Scripture application, too.

Otherwise, the question is merely a person's own prejudicial outlook as head of a corporation and that prejudicial stand can be attacked both in the press and the legal system.

It is one thing for a pastor to say, "I personally don't marry ..." and quite another for a corporate body to have in their constituted laws "we do not allow staff to perform nor do we recognize the validity of marriages ..."

 

I don't think the amount of time spent sitting in church is the benchmark God uses to evaluate a Christian's worthiness or why the nation is declining. Rather it is inactivity by Christians living and spreading the Gospel on a day by day basis.

Christ didn't command is to sit in church (though it is important, and I get your point ) he commanded us to go out INTO the world and spread the Gospel.

 

I can't prove stuff that doesn't exist. You and Salty have made up a scenario in your head and asked me to prove it false. That isn't how a debate works.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, looking to the United States Government for spiritual and moral guidance is an exercise in futility.