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Iconoclast

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Here is an example of how reading former saints can fast forward our growth in the things of God.

Here is a bit of Thomas Watson on repentance;
(6) Repentance is necessary for God’s own people, who have a real work of grace and are Israelites indeed. They must offer up a daily sacrifice of tears. The Antinomians8 hold that when anyone becomes a believer, a writ of ease is given to them; there remains nothing for them now to do but to rejoice. Yes, they have something else to do, and that is to repent.
Repentance is a continuous act. Godly sorrow will not fully end till death.

Jerome, writing in an epistle to Laeta, tells her that her life must be a life of repentance.

Repentance is called “crucifying the flesh” (Gal 5.24), which is not done suddenly, but over time; it will be going on all our life.

And are there not many reasons why God’s own people should go into the weeping bath?

“Are there not with you, even with you, sins against the Lord?” (2Chr 28.10). Do you not have sins of daily incursion? Though you are diamonds, do you have no flaws?

Do we not read of the “spot of God’s children” (Deu 32.5). Search into your hearts with the candle of the word and see if you can find nothing needing repentance there.

(a) Repent of your rash censuring. Instead of praying for others, you are ready to pass a verdict on them. It is true that the saints shall judge the world (1Cor 6.2), but bide your time! Remember the apostle’s caution in 1Cor 4.5: “judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes.”

(b) Repent of your vain thoughts. These swarm in your minds as the flies did in Pharaoh’s court (Exo 8.24). What bewilderment there is in the imagination! If Satan does not possess your bodies, he possesses your imaginations. “How long will your vain thoughts lodge within you?” (Jer 4.14). A man may think himself into hell. O you saints, be humbled for this lightness in your head.

(c) Repent of your vain fashions. It is strange that the garments which God gave to cover shame would reveal pride. The godly are bid not to be conformed to this world (Rom 12.2). People of the world are garish and light in their dresses. It is in fashion nowadays to go to hell. But whatever others do, do not let Judah offend (Hos 4.15). The apostle Paul has set down what upper garment Christians must wear: “modest apparel” (1Tim 2.9); and what under-garment they must wear: “be clothed with humility” (1Pet 5.5).

(d) Repent of your decays in grace: “you have left your first love” (Rev 2.4). Christians, how often it is low tide in your souls! How often does your cold fit come upon you! Where are those flames of affection, those sweet meltings of spirit that you once had? I fear they are melted away. Oh repent for leaving your first love!

(e) Repent of not improving your talents. Health is a talent; estate is a talent; wit and parts are talents; and God has entrusted these to you to improve with for his glory. He has sent you into the world as a merchant sends his agent beyond the seas to trade for his master’s advantage; but you have not done the good you might. Can you say, “Lord, your pound has gained five pounds” (Luk 19.18)? Or do you mourn at the burial of your talents? Let it grieve you that so much of your life has not been time lived but time lost; that you have filled up your golden hours more with froth than with spirits.

(f) Repent of forgetting sacred vows. A vow binds one’s soul to God (Num 30.2). Christians, since you have been bound to God, have you not forfeited your other indentures? Have you served for common uses after you have been the Lord’s by solemn 7 It’s theirs for the asking, and they can do with it whatever they want. 8 Those who assert that there is no law any longer; they claim we may live in rabid disobedience and still be saved. 32 dedication? By breach of vows you have breached your peace. Surely this calls for a fresh basin of tears.

(g) Repent of your unresponsiveness to the blessings you received. You have lived all your life on free quarter. You have spent your stock of free graces. You have been miraculously blessed with mercy. But where are your returns of love to God? The Athenians sued ungrateful persons at law. Christians, may not God sue you at law for your unthankfulness? “I will recover my wool and my flax” (Hos 2.9); I will recover them by law.

(h) Repent of your worldliness. By your profession you seem to resemble the birds of paradise that soar aloft and live on the dew of heaven. Yet as serpents you lick the dust. Baruch, a good man, was taxed with this: “do you seek great things for yourself?” (Jer 45.5).

(i) Repent of your divisions. These are a blot in your coat of armor. They make others stand aloof from religion. Separating from the wicked imitates Christ who was “separate from sinners” (Heb 7.26). But for the godly to divide themselves and look askew at one another, if we had as many eyes as there are stars, they would be too few to weep for this! Divisions eclipse the church’s beauty and weaken her strength. God’s Spirit brought cloven tongues of fire among the saints (Act 2.3), but the devil has brought cloven hearts. Surely this deserves a shower of tears:

(j) Repent for the iniquity of your holy things. How often have the services of God’s worship been frozen with formality and soured with pride? There have been more of the peacock’s plumes than the mourning of the dove. It is sad that duties of religion should be made a stage for vainglory to act upon. O Christians, there is such a thick crust on your duties that it may be feared there is little meat left in them for God to feed upon.10 Behold: repenting work is cut out for the best. And what may make the tide of grief swell higher is to think that the sins of God’s people provoke God more than the sins of others (Deu 32.19). The sins of the wicked pierce Christ’s side. The sins of the godly go to his heart. Peter’s sin, being acted out against so much love, was most unkind, which made his cheeks furrowed with tears: “When he thought about it, he wept” (Mar 14.72).
The Doctrine of Repentance. Thomas Watson c. 1620—1686 Modernized American-English, formatting, corrections, and additional notes (in blue)
 

Iconoclast

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Just reading the table of contents can be instructive;
THE EPISTLE TO THE READER 1 1. A PRELIMINARY DISCOURSE
3 2. COUNTERFEIT REPENTANCE
5 1. The first deceit of repentance is legal terror .
5 2. Another deceit about repentance is resolution against sin .
5 3. The third deceit about repentance is leaving many sinful ways alone .
5 3. THE NATURE OF TRUE REPENTANCE
(1) .. 7 Ingredient 1: Sight of Sin . 7 Ingredient 2: Sorrow for Sin
7 1. True godly sorrow is inward ...
8 2. Godly sorrow is sincere ..
8 3. Godly sorrow is faithful ..
9 4. Godly sorrow is a great sorrow .
9 5. Godly sorrow in some cases is joined with restitution
10 6. Godly sorrow is abiding .
10 Ingredient 3: Confession of Sin ..
11 1. Confession must be voluntary
12 2. Confession must be with compunction
2 3. Confession must be sincere
12 4. In true confession a man particularizes sin .
13 5. A true penitent confesses sin in the fountain ..
13 6. Sin is to be confessed with all its circumstances and aggravations
13 7. In confession we must so charge ourselves as to clear God
13 8. We must confess our sins with a resolve not to repeat them
13 4. THE NATURE OF TRUE REPENTANCE (2) ...
17 Ingredient 4: Shame for Sin
17 Ingredient 5: Hatred of Sin .
19 1. When a man’s spirit is set against sin
20 2. True hatred of sin is universal.
20 3. True hatred against sin is against sin in all forms ..
20 4. True hatred is implacable .
20 5. Where there is a real hatred, we not only oppose sin in ourselves but in others too .... 20 Ingredient 6: Turning from Sin ...
23 1. It must be a turning from sin with the heart .
23 2. It must be a turning from all sin .
24 3. It must be a turning from sin upon a spiritual ground. ..
24 4. It must be such a turning from sin as turns to God. ..
24 5. True turning from sin is such a turn as has no return. .
\ 24 5. THE REASONS ENFORCING REPENTANCE .
27 1. God’s sovereign command ...
27 2. The pure nature of God denies communion with an impenitent creature
27 3. Sinners continuing in impenitence are out of Christ’s commission . 27 4. We have wronged God by sin .
27 5. If God saves men without repentance, without discriminating, then he must save all, 27 A Reprehension to the Impenitent
28 6. A SERIOUS EXHORTATION TO REPENTANCE ..
29 1. Repentance is necessary
29 2. Repentance is necessary for all persons
29 3. Repentance is necessary for all sins .
33 7. POWERFUL MOTIVES TO REPENTANCE .
35 1. Sorrow and a melting heart will fit us for every holy duty .
35 2. Repentance is highly acceptable ..
35 3. Repentance commends all our services to God
35 4. Without repentance nothing will avail us
35 5. Repenting tears are delicious ..
35 6. Great sins repented of shall find mercy ..
36 7. Repentance is the inlet to spiritual blessings ..
36 8. Repentance ushers in temporal blessings ..
36 9. Repentance staves off judgments from a land ...
37 10. Repentance makes joy in heaven
37 11. Consider how dear our sins cost Christ .........................................................................
37 12. This is the purpose of all afflictions which God sends, .................................................
37 13. The days of our mourning will soon be ended ..............................................................
37 14. The happy and glorious reward that follows upon repentance ....................................
38 15. The next motive to repentance is to consider the evil of impenitence .........................
38 16. The last motive to repentance is that the Day of Judgment is coming ........................
38 8. EXHORTATIONS TO SPEEDY REPENTANCE .........................................................................
40 1. Now is the season of repentance, and everything is best done in its season .
40 2. The sooner you repent the fewer sins you will have to answer for ..
40 3. The sooner we repent, the more glory we may bring to God .
40 4. Putting off repentance any longer has dangerous consequences ..................................
41 9. THE TRIAL OF OUR REPENTANCE, AND COMFORT FOR THE PENITENT
44 1. Carefulness
44 2. Clearing ourselves ..
44 3. Indignation .... 44 4. Fear .
44 5. Vehement desire ...
44 6. Zeal ...........
44 7. Revenge ..... 45 A Necessary Caution .
45 Comfort for the Repenting Sinner ..
46 1. Your sins are pardoned .
46 2. God will pass an act of oblivion
46 3. Conscience will now speak peace .
46 10. REMOVING THE IMPEDIMENTS TO REPENTANCE..
47 1. Men do not apprehend that they need repentance
\47 2. People conceive it an easy thing to repent
47 3. Presumptuous thoughts of God’s mercy .
47 4. A lazy sluggish attitude
48 5. The tickling pleasure of sin: ‘who had pleasure in unrighteousness’ (2 Thes 2.12) ...... 48 6. An opinion that repentance will take away our joy ........................................................ 48 7. Another obstacle to repentance is despondency of mind ............................................... 49 8. Hope of impunity ............................................................................................................ 49 9. The next impediment of repentance is fear of reproach ................................................
49 10. The last impediment of repentance is immoderate love of the world .........................
50 11. PRESCRIBING SOME MEANS FOR REPENTANCE: ..............................................................
51 (1) Serious Consideration ............................................................................................................
51 1. Firstly, consider seriously what sin is.
51 2. The second serious consideration is the mercies of God. .
54 3. In the third place, consider God’s afflictive providences. .
55 4. Fourthly, let us consider how much we will have to answer for at last if we do not repent.
56 12. PRESCRIBING SOME MEANS FOR REPENTANCE (cont’d): .
57 (2) Compare Penitent and Impenitent Conditions .
57 (3) A third means is a settled determination to leave sin. ..
57 (4) The fourth means is earnest supplication. .
57 (5) The fifth means is to pursue clearer discoveries of God .
58 (6) Lastly, we should labor for faith. .
 

canadyjd

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Mostly I have been amazed that I have had almost no unique insights into scripture.

Every time I think I’m the first to think a particular thought, I discover it has been debated for hundreds, or even a couple thousand years.

Im also impressed by the very long hours, weeks, months, years these saints spent meditating on scripture and studying what others had written before pontificating a position.

humbling

peace to you
 

Iconoclast

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Mostly I have been amazed that I have had almost no unique insights into scripture.

Every time I think I’m the first to think a particular thought, I discover it has been debated for hundreds, or even a couple thousand years.

Im also impressed by the very long hours, weeks, months, years these saints spent meditating on scripture and studying what others had written before pontificating a position.

humbling

peace to you

I agree totally. I could probably think of a few of the items, but when I open up such a work, it is like an avalanche of correction, instruction, exhortation, rebuke,
If you take the time to work through some men's works it is worth the time investment.
These men and their writings were totally Christ-centered.
When you read several such works, it instructs each of us on basically how we should read and meditate on the scriptures to begin with as is spoken in Psalm 1 the contrast between the godly and the wicked.
 

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10. The last impediment of repentance is immoderate love of the world.
No wonder Ezekiel’s hearers were hardened into rebellion when their hearts went after covetousness (Eze 33.31).

The world so engrosses men’s time and bewitches their affections that they cannot repent. They would rather put gold in their bag than tears in God’s bottle.

I have read of the Turks that they pay no heed to churches or altars, but they are diligent in looking after their crops. Likewise, many rarely give heed to repentance – they care more about breaking up clods of dirt with their plow, than breaking up the fallow ground of their hearts.

The thorns choke the word.

We read of those who were invited to Christ’s supper, and who put him off with worldly excuses.
The first said, “I bought a piece of ground, and I must go see it: I ask that you excuse me. Another said, ‘I bought five yoke of oxen ...’” (Luk 14. 18-19). The farm and the shop take up so much of people’s time that they have no free time for their souls. Their golden weights12 hinder their silver tears. There is an herb in the country of Sardinia, like balm, which makes them die laughing if they eat too much of it. The world is such an herb (or rather, weed), if men eat immoderately of it. Instead of dying repenting, they will die laughing.

These are the obstructions to repentance which must be removed so that the current of water may flow clearer
 

Iconoclast

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Here is just the outline of Chapter 11-
11. PRESCRIBING SOME MEANS FOR REPENTANCE: (1) Serious Consideration In the last place I will prescribe some rules or means conducive to repentance. The first means conducive to repentance is serious consideration: “I thought on my ways, and turned my feet toward your testimonies” (Psa 119.59). The prodigal, when he came to his senses, seriously considered his riotous luxuries; and then he repented. Peter wept when he thought of Christ’s words. There are certain things which, if they were well considered, would be a means to make us break off a course of sinning. 1. Firstly, consider seriously what sin is. Be assured, there is enough evil in sin to make us repent. There are these twenty evils in sin:

(1) Every sin is a recession from God (Jer 2.5). .

(2) Sin is walking contrary to God (Lev 26.27).

3) Sin is an offense to God. It violates his laws.


(4) Sin is profound ignorance.

(5) Sin is a piece of desperateness.

(6) Sin smears with filth. In James 1.21 sin is called “filthiness.” The Greek word signifies the pus of ulcers. Sin is called an abomination (Deu 7.25); indeed it is plural, abominations (Deu 20.18). .


(7) In sin there is odious ingratitude.

(8) Sin is a debasing thing.

(9) Sin is a damage. In every sin there is infinite loss.

10) Sin is a burden: “My iniquities have gone over my head: like a heavy burden, they are too heavy for me” (Psa 38.4).

(11) Sin is a debt.

(12) There is deceitfulness in sin (Heb 3.13). “

(13) Sin is a spiritual sickness. One man is sick of pride, another of lust, another of malice.

(14) Sin is a bondage.

(15) Sin has a spreading malignity in it. It hurts not only a man’s self, but others.

(16) Sin is a troublesome thing. It brings trouble with it.

(17) Sin is an absurd thing.

(18) There is cruelty in every sin. With every sin you commit, you stab your soul. While you are kind to sin, you are cruel to yourself,

(19) Sin is a spiritual death: “dead in trespasses and sins” (Eph 2.1).


20) Sin without repentance tends toward final damnation.
 
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