Why should I remain Republican?

[steaver]

Any advice?

When I registered years ago, I chose Republican only because here in PA Independants cannot vote in Primaries and I thought I should be able to vote. But now I am not so sure it matters. The RNC wants liberals for candidates so why should I support them with my letter?

I'm seriously thinking about going Independant before this fall.

 

[Tom Bryant]

While I would disagree that the RNC wants liberals for candidates, so remove your affiliation from the Republicans. All you'll do is not vote in the primary. You won't be able to vote for whoever you think is conservative enough for you.

And going independent will not make any difference on your ability to vote in november.

Personally I like what William Buckley once said that we ought to select the most conservative candidate electable. The fact is that anyone in the Republican party is more conservative that the President we have now.

 

[steaver]

Personally I like what William Buckley once said that we ought to select the most conservative candidate electable.

This is exactly the kind of statements that is turning me against being a Party affiliate. "Electable" says who? These statements are devised to heard the cows in the direction the higher ups want them to go.

How about every person vote the exact opposite the RNC and the media says who is "electable" and then we will see how Romney gets elected.

 

[Don]

This is exactly the kind of statements that is turning me against being a Party affiliate. "Electable" says who? These statements are devised to heard the cows in the direction the higher ups want them to go.

How about every person vote the exact opposite the RNC and the media says who is "electable" and then we will see how Romney gets elected.

Actually - then we'll see Obama get elected. But if that's what you want....

 

[Salty]

Any advice?

When I registered years ago, I chose Republican only because here in PA Independants cannot vote in Primaries and I thought I should be able to vote. But now I am not so sure it matters. The RNC wants liberals for candidates so why should I support them with my letter?

I'm seriously thinking about going Independant before this fall.

Here is my suggestion!
Get involved in your local Republican Party. If need be, contact the local Board of Elections, and they should be able to tell you who your County Chairman is. Call him and volunteer to serve. Being on the Committee, you will then have a direct voice in who will run on the Republican line. If possible, consider running yourself - start at a local level, school board, township, ect. Get to know the local candidates at State and national level.

I speak of all this from experience. Yes, I have run for office (State Assembly and City council), I do know many of the local elected politicians.

If you do decide to leave the Republican Party, then consider another party - click here for the list

and here is some additional info on PA politics (this has two additional parties not on the first list)

Here in NY, I am a member of the NY Conservative Party (we are not officially connected with any National Party. Also there are a few other States/Commonwealths with a "Conservative Party" but some of them are affiliated with the National Constitution Party.

Another advantage NY has is the fusion ballot. In the seven states that permit fusion—Connecticut, Delaware, Idaho, Mississippi, New York, South Carolina, and Vermont—a candidate may receive the nomination of more than one party.
This has been very effective as it is extremely hard for a Republican to win elections without the Conservative Party support. A recent example was in the NY 23 District special election, Dierde Scozzafava was a State Assemblyman was nominated by the Republican Committee. However, she was extremely liberal and the Conservative Party refused to endorse her. Rather, we endorsed Republican Doug Hoffman. He was doing rather well in the polls. At the last minute - Dierde ended her campaign and endorsed the Democrat - thus the Congressman is now Bill Owens. If the Republicans had listened to the Conservative Party, we would have one more "R"!

Don't give up - get involved!

 

[J.D.]

Any advice?

When I registered years ago, I chose Republican only because here in PA Independants cannot vote in Primaries and I thought I should be able to vote. But now I am not so sure it matters. The RNC wants liberals for candidates so why should I support them with my letter?

I'm seriously thinking about going Independant before this fall.

Independent is good, but here's a party you may want to consider:

http://www.constitutionparty.com/

 

[SolaSaint]

How does a person register as a Republican. In Missouri when I registered to vote I asked how to register as a R or D, and was told I didn't need to. I only vote as either R or D in the primary, is that considered a registration?

 

[Salty]

How does a person register as a Republican. In Missouri when I registered to vote I asked how to register as a R or D, and was told I didn't need to. I only vote as either R or D in the primary, is that considered a registration?

Depends - each State/Commonwealth have their own laws concerning voting and registration.

I just read some info on MO registration. You initially register - w/o party affiliation. You need not specify unless you desire to vote in a primary.
Now suppose this year you choose "R", but then next year you want to vote "D" primary -
I'm not sure how that works in MO - I guess you will have to "show me" :smilewinkgrin:

 

[saturneptune]

While I would disagree that the RNC wants liberals for candidates, so remove your affiliation from the Republicans. All you'll do is not vote in the primary. You won't be able to vote for whoever you think is conservative enough for you.

And going independent will not make any difference on your ability to vote in november.

Personally I like what William Buckley once said that we ought to select the most conservative candidate electable. The fact is that anyone in the Republican party is more conservative that the President we have now.

Not true, Romney is the essence of evil to the same degree as Obama. Neither are worthy of a Christian vote.

 

[saturneptune]

Any advice?

When I registered years ago, I chose Republican only because here in PA Independants cannot vote in Primaries and I thought I should be able to vote. But now I am not so sure it matters. The RNC wants liberals for candidates so why should I support them with my letter?

I'm seriously thinking about going Independant before this fall.

I was a Republican for 45 years, and last year I joined the Constitution Party. McCain was the last straw in voting for liberal, leaderless candidates. This year takes the cake. The Republcians are bound and determined to nominate a non Christian, pro abortion, pro gay rights nut case. Mitt Romney is a clone of Obama.

My advice is to vote your conscience. Do not let anyone tell you that voting for a third party is a vote for Obama. It is a vote for a third party.

Look at it this way. There are people on this board who have spent four years bashng Obama for being a closet Muslim and supporting abortion and gay rights. They will turn right around and vote for a Mormon who believes Jesus is not God. Aside from that, Romney either aided or did not oppose abortion legislation, gay rights, gun control and goverment controlled health care while governor of Massachussetts. They are willing to sell their soul to the Republican Party. Romney panders for votes in exchange for the blood of innocent children.

 

[ktn4eg]

I grew up in PA. When, in 1964, the official state GOP refused to endorse Goldwater (probably due to Gov. Scranton having run against him at the convention), I had to resort to working with the local Citizens for Goldwater-Miller. When it came time for me to register (back then you had to be 21), I was so fed up with the PA GOP that I wound up registering with the Constitutional Party [Not sure if this was directly connected with what's now called the Constitution Party--see Salty's link for the latter one].

No, I couldn't vote in the primaries, but I could vote in the general elections. That didn't matter to me much then because for the first two years I was registered I was over in Germany anyway and never heard much of the goings on about PA politics.

In Tennessee (where I've lived since 1972) you don't have to denote a specific party affiliation when you register. The only time you have to declare for a party is if you wish to vote in the primaries, so you could actually be a Democrat and still vote in the GOP primary of vice versa.

I've voted "third party" in many presidential elections, and may vote that way this year. The only thing I don't like about the TN ballots is that if you're not voting for either major party is that all the others are lumped together as "Independent" parties, with only the candidates' names to tell them apart. EX: On the last presidential ballot, the Constitution Party, the Green Party, and the Libertarian were all listed simply as "Independent."

I won't vote for someone simply because that person is deemed "electable" by some media or political elites. I will vote for whomever I feel most closely represents my values.

 

[saturneptune]

I grew up in PA. When, in 1964, the official state GOP refused to endorse Goldwater (probably due to Gov. Scranton having run against him at the convention), I had to resort to working with the local Citizens for Goldwater-Miller. When it came time for me to register (back then you had to be 21), I was so fed up with the PA GOP that I wound up registering with the Constitutional Party [Not sure if this was directly connected with what's now called the Constitution Party--see Salty's link for the latter one].

No, I couldn't vote in the primaries, but I could vote in the general elections. That didn't matter to me much then because for the first two years I was registered I was over in Germany anyway and never heard much of the goings on about PA politics.

In Tennessee (where I've lived since 1972) you don't have to denote a specific party affiliation when you register. The only time you have to declare for a party is if you wish to vote in the primaries, so you could actually be a Democrat and still vote in the GOP primary of vice versa.

I've voted "third party" in many presidential elections, and may vote that way this year. The only thing I don't like about the TN ballots is that if you're not voting for either major party is that all the others are lumped together as "Independent" parties, with only the candidates' names to tell them apart. EX: On the last presidential ballot, the Constitution Party, the Green Party, and the Libertarian were all listed simply as "Independent."

I won't vote for someone simply because that person is deemed "electable" by some media or political elites. I will vote for whomever I feel most closely represents my values.

Before 1988, Republicans generally put up the better candidate of the two. I have voted in ten Presidential elections, and only voted for a Democrat is Carter's first term, mainly because of the Ford pardon of Nixon. That turned out to be a mistake. Even Nixon himself was better than McGovern. After 1988, the slow deterioration of the Republican Party began, from Bush the First, to Dole, to Bush the Second, and finally the ultimate nothing, John McCain. I decided after voting for him, that was the last one. This year broke the slow deterioration. It is no longer slow. It is a death spiral.

In the totality of the person, I cannot think of a person more evil than Mitt Romney, and the only one that comes close from either party is Obama. For all the blunders other nominees and Presidents have made, none match this guy. Aside from the external evidence, there is something about the inner workings of this person that does not add up. He looks like a combination of a Disney character with a Lawerence Welk smile plastered on him. He moves like his arms and legs are controlled by strings like a puppet.

Mormonism is very dangerous in itself to the Christian faith. It is not openly hostile like Islam, but quietly sits and infects the Gospel. They preach a false Gospel, use false Scripture, and treat the afterlife like a SyFy movie. They attack the essence of our faith, the Person of Jesus Christ. First of all, Jesus Christ is not God according to them. He is like a brother to Michael, Gabriel, and Lucifer. Even God the Father is considered a heir of a former God. They believe Jesus is a created being. This is just what this nation needs, a leader who is a known non Christian.

Read about his record as governor of Massachusetts in relation to abortion, gay rights, gun control, and government run health care, or RomneyCare. It is bad enough to have Obama type positions, but it is even worse to claim to be the moral spokesman for America after doing a 180 on all these issues when running for President.

I am not anywhere near the best Christian on earth, but I do have standards above the gutter level.

 

[Salty]

The only thing I don't like about the TN ballots is that if you're not voting for either major party is that all the others are lumped together as "Independent" parties, with only the candidates' names to tell them apart..

KT, I fully agree with you. Have you ever written to your State Senator or Representative to change this law? Have you started a facebook page, ect

Before 1988, Republicans generally put up the better candidate of the two. ...
Mormonism is very dangerous in itself to the Christian faith. It is not openly hostile like Islam, but quietly sits and infects the Gospel. They preach a false Gospel, ....

So I suppose you didnt have a problem with President Reagans religion?

 

[SolaSaint]

Depends - each State/Commonwealth have their own laws concerning voting and registration.

I just read some info on MO registration. You initially register - w/o party affiliation. You need not specify unless you desire to vote in a primary.
Now suppose this year you choose "R", but then next year you want to vote "D" primary -
I'm not sure how that works in MO - I guess you will have to "show me" :smilewinkgrin:

Thanks Salty, I didn't know that.

 

[saturneptune]

KT, I fully agree with you. Have you ever written to your State Senator or Representative to change this law? Have you started a facebook page, ect





So I suppose you didnt have a problem with President Reagans religion?

Reagan was a Presbyterian. Chicago Times??? Give me a break. If you are comparing Mitt Romney and Ronald Reagan, maybe you should stay home election day. Obama is going to bet electoral votes anyhow. No, I am not looking for an excuse to vote for a non Christian.

 

[billwald]

Why does anyone think that both major parties are not owned by the same international corporations?

 

[saturneptune]

Why does anyone think that both major parties are not owned by the same international corporations?

That I cannot figure out. The same people who have bashed Obama (and deservedly so) for four years on abortion, and being a Muslim, will turn right around and vote for a pro abortionist who is a member of a cult, and denies the divinity of Christ.

 

[Salty]

Reagan was a Presbyterian. Chicago Times??? ...

Sat - did you even read the link? apparently you didnt.
Lets discuss the info, AFTER you read the link.

 

[saturneptune]

Sat - did you even read the link? apparently you didnt.
Lets discuss the info, AFTER you read the link.

I read the link before the post, and did not consider it worthy of comment.

 

[poncho]

All this arguing over nothing. Rest assured my good friends the next president's authority will come from the "international community" not from the U.S. Constitution or the consent of the governed.

Vote any way you want it ain't gonna change a thing. The game is rigged.