Will Sharia become a law in America?

[righteousdude2]

Everywhere Muslim refugees migrate to, comes the push by said Muslims to establish Sharia law as an alternative to the law of their new country.

If these people truly want to migrate to France, England, America, etc., they need to assimilate not only to.the culture and customs of their new home land, but to the laws of those lands.

On top of this, Muslim refugees are even trying to change local educational systems, curriculum, and holidays. Again, THIS IS NOT ASSIMILATION. It is occupying, and if they can't make it here, then let's send them back to the nations they fled.

Will Sharia Law become a secondary law of our land? And if so, when do you see it coming about?

 

[InTheLight]

No.

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[MennoSota]

No.

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The US Constitution would need to be amended and the 1st Amendment thrown out. Could that happen? In theory, yes. However, 2/3rds of the US would have to approve it as well as both houses in Congress. Would a secular society willingly submit itself to sharia found in the Quran and hadith? No.

 

[Baptist Believer]

No.

 

[Rob_BW]

Will it become law? No.

Will large swathes of the population voluntarily subject themselves to it? Maybe.

Look at those hasidic types with their own enclaves north of NYC as an example. Or even the way the Catholics handled certain matters in house.

 

[MennoSota]

There are over 20 "honor killings" per year in the US. There are pockets in cities like Detroit where Christianity will not be tolerated without significant harassment.
That being said, as Rob_BW has mentioned, this isn't new. The founder of the town I was raised in stated that as long as he was alive there would be no churches in his town. (He ran the saloons and brothels that catered to lumberjacks.) No church was ever established while he was alive. That was in the late 1800's and early 1900's.

 

[carpro]

Will Sharia Law become a secondary law of our land? And if so, when do you see it coming about?

Why not? We have judges all over the country that already ignore the Constitution and create new law on their own.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Why not? We have judges all over the country that already ignore the Constitution and create new law on their own.

The Supreme Court has been quite consistent on religious liberty and the applicability of the First Amendment. I think you are overstating the likelihood of all of that being overturned.

 

[HankD]

It may very well come to a SCOTUS decision and Sharia law will not be allowed, not based upon the First Amendment but based our codified Rule of Law, The Constitution.

No other can be allowed.


HankD

 

[InTheLight]

Why not? We have judges all over the country that already ignore the Constitution and create new law on their own.

State laws govern most of the things that Sharia law would impact--marriage laws, usury laws, drivers licenses, almost all crimes, etc. For the most part state judges do not create new law on their own.

 

[carpro]

The Supreme Court has been quite consistent on religious liberty and the applicability of the First Amendment. I think you are overstating the likelihood of all of that being overturned.

Hard to overstate it when I didn't state what the likelihood was in the first place.

 

[carpro]

State laws govern most of the things that Sharia law would impact--marriage laws, usury laws, drivers licenses, almost all crimes, etc. For the most part state judges do not create new law on their own.

Wishful thinking, I believe.

 

[InTheLight]

Wishful thinking, I believe.

I presume you are referring to the idea that state judges don't make new laws as being wishful thinking. So which Sharia laws would a state judge be most likely to declare is also state law?

Women should not be allowed to drive? Women can be stoned if they refuse to arranged marriages? Dietary and food laws? The penalty for theft is amputation of the hand? Criticizing Muhammed is punishable by death? Being gay is punishable by death? A man can marry a child under age 16?

 

[Baptist Believer]

Hard to overstate it when I didn't state what the likelihood was in the first place.

In the American English vernacular, when one says/writes, "Why not?", it indicates that there is little or nothing to stop the situation from occurring. When you added the opinion that judges ignore the Constitution and create new laws by fiat, it is natural to understand you to mean that you believe it is quite likely.

Forgive me. I assumed you were communicating coherently as a native American English speaker. I will not assume that again.

 

[carpro]

In the American English vernacular, when one says/writes, "Why not?", it indicates that there is little or nothing to stop the situation from occurring. When you added the opinion that judges ignore the Constitution and create new laws by fiat, it is natural to understand you to mean that you believe it is quite likely.

Forgive me. I assumed you were communicating coherently as a native American English speaker. I will not assume that again.

Nasty post.

Nothing like personal insults to make your day. If you try a little harder, I'm sure you can come up with something a little more insulting.

At any rate, when I use Why Not? , it refers to the possibility, not liklihood. According to my American vernacular dictionary.

 

[carpro]

I presume you are referring to the idea that state judges don't make new laws as being wishful thinking. So which Sharia laws would a state judge be most likely to declare is also state law?

I"m referring to the fact that we are seeing judges make all sorts of decisions all over the country that have no basis in the constitution. I don't believe state judges are exempt from that sort of excess.

 

[InTheLight]

I"m referring to the fact that we are seeing judges make all sorts of decisions all over the country that have no basis in the constitution. I don't believe state judges are exempt from that sort of excess.

Well then, you must have examples?

For the most part unless they go to religious freedom issues Sharia law issues are not constitutional issues, they are covered by state laws.

 

[carpro]

Well then, you must have examples?

For the most part unless they go to religious freedom issues Sharia law issues are not constitutional issues, they are covered by state laws.

Advocates of Anti-Shariah Measures Alarmed by Judge's Ruling


http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy....rsion-of-islamic-law-in-the-u-s-legal-system/

 

[InTheLight]

Advocates of Anti-Shariah Measures Alarmed by Judge's Ruling

Didn't see any new law created there, just a bad interpretation of whether or not a restraining order should be granted. The judge's decision for no restraining order was overturned by a higher state court. Incident happened seven years ago.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Nothing like personal insults to make your day.

You post things meaning a certain thing and then you claim that you don't mean them. How am I to have a conversation with you if you don't stand by your words?

How can I take you seriously?

At any rate, when I use Why Not? , it refers to the possibility, not liklihood.

But, as previously noted, that's not where you stopped. You went on to insist that judges make up laws all the time, so you did make a case for its likelihood.

I can only go by what you write. Perhaps you are not skilled at communicating in standard American English, or perhaps you don't stand by what you write. Tell me which conclusion I should draw.