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Women-Dresses vs Other

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Nicholas25, Jan 1, 2007.

  1. Nicholas25

    Nicholas25 New Member

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    I am a member at a Free Will Baptist Church where the ladies wear dresses and skirts. We do have some ladies who pear pant-slacks because of health or injuries. What do you guys think about this? Should ladies wear dresses or skirts because they are more lady like or respectful? There have been nights that my wife would have like to wear pants and I told her I didn't think it was wrong to do so; but that I thought she needed to respect the way our church does things.
     
  2. EdSutton

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    So who is the 'Clothing Cop' where you reside? And since when does the church enforce a dress code, there, or anywhere, for that matter? I would bet that a way to get some real attention would be to have wear a tunic and robe and sandals as was done in Jesus' day, and the men wear kilts and carry bagpipes! :rolleyes:

    Sorry, if I sound a bit ridiculous. We currently have a 15+ page thread going on "modesty", here in this forum. But it almost seems that "only the names have been changed to protect the guilty".
    And I'd personally guess that one is really no more "lady like" than another, and would in fact offer that I've seen some skirts and dresses that I probably would consider not very "lady like". And some others that I'd say are very "legalistic like"!

    Ed
     
  3. KenH

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    I see no problem with women wearing pants at any time.
     
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    If the church is going to have a standard that the women wear dresses and skirts, I would first ask to see the scriptural reason for this standard.

    Are the men in the church wearing skirts? They did in Bible times. Are the men wearing undergarments? If so, they may be in err. It was only the priests that were to wear them.. As pointed out, are all wearing robes? sandals?

    The problem is, man looks on the outward but God looks on the heart. When the heart can only see horizontally, they only pattern themselves after what they see. Man should look vertically. Only then will the heart be able to see past the outer garments and see man's true need.
     
  5. Nicholas25

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    Forgive me for not having the scripture #'s to back it up; but somewhere it talks about women not dressing like men and that is where this comes from.
     
  6. Marcia

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    But pants or slacks designed for women are very different from pants worn by men. If a woman normally dresses in men's clothes and tries to look like a man, then I think that might pertain the biblical statement about women not dressing like men. But I don't see how a woman wearing pants designed for women is dressing like a man, nor do such clothes make her look like a man.

    The principle here seems to be that the Bible is forbidding men trying to look like women and vice-versa.
     
  7. KenH

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    Yes, that was a command given to the Jews in the Mosaic Law. The Mosaic Law was never given to the Gentiles then or in the New Testament. There was a council in Jerusalem in the book of Acts that settled the question as to whether Gentiles were to be required to live like Jews.
     
  8. standingfirminChrist

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    You are probably talking about Deuteronomy 22:5. But that is being taken out of context. That is speaking of battle armor, not everyday clothing.

    Study it out.
     
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    Interesting SFIC... I don't remember ever hearing that... I will look at that more deeply. Thanks.

    As for the OP issue, if we are supposed to use Deut. 22:5 as THE verse...
    What are we to do with
    Deuteronomy 22:8
    (8) When you build a new house, make a parapet around your roof so that you may not bring the guilt of bloodshed on your house if someone falls from the roof.

    Those of you that won't let your woman wear pants, do you have the right type roof on your house?... if not, then you are going against God's word... which is a sin....

    Also, it was written somewhere that you are not allowed to mix types of clothes.. so all of those cotton/polyester blends must go!

    Which would be fine with me because I only like 100% cotton.
     
  10. bapmom

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    Look guys,

    just because the majority of women in the church wear only dresses does not mean there's a "dress cop" running around, nor does it mean that they are a legalistic, unloving church that sets unreasonable standards and yada, yada, yada, blah, blah, blah.......


    Nicholas,

    I respect your willingness to be respectful towards the way your church does things. It shows real Christian love when you are willing to give up what you see as your Christian liberty (albeit a minor one) in order to give honor and respect to the other Christians you are ministering with.

    Personally, I only wear dresses/skirts. Many of the ladies in my church also have this conviction. No, we do not have a "dress cop", nor is it equated with salvation or anything.


    And lastly....why do we need another thread on this?
     
  11. gb93433

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    I wonder what Rosie the riveter wore to work to help the country in a major crisis and what she would wear today?
     
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    You are right it doesn't mean that.

    However, that kind of stuff does take place sadly. I personally know of a church in this area where a group of ladies are known for cornering new women in the church and telling them "either find some skirts or find a new church"

    Oh, and no we do not need another thread out it.
     
  13. Lagardo

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    You missed the breakfast where we were told that the best approach is to forgive the first-time visitor but after that, they know better. Of course, if you'd just come a little on further down the highway, you'd learn the dress codes involved in wearing camo to church.

    Personally, I can think of many times where I wish the ladies would wear pants as opposed to skirts, but that's opening up that modesty issue.

    I think that "women dressing like men" or vice versa goes well beyond just wearing pants, t-shirts, or other articles of clothing that are sold to both.
     
  14. Bob Farnaby

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    Just curious .... How can a "Free Wiill" Baptist church ENFORCE or DICTATE a dress code ??

    Regards
    Bob
     
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    Bob,

    he didn't say they enforced it OR dictated it, just that the majority wear skirts. Why does everybody get so het up about it? Yes, I know, you think it somehow infringes on your "rights".....

    :tonofbricks:
     
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    SFIC,

    I was always taught that this has to do with cross-dressing, not battle armor.

    Regards - hope you and yours are well,
    BiR
     
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    Maybe I should wear a kilt to church just to see how many people freak out.
     
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    There would be a bunch, I bet. Or how about Sir Walter Rawleigh or King Henry the Eighth attire? Or even that of Daniel Boone or with the powdered hair of George Washington, John Adams, or Thomas Jefferson?

    :laugh: :laugh:

    Ed
     
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    From Adam Clarke's Commentary:
    It is very probably that men would dress as women to stay at home to avoid being sent out to the battle, and women were taking the men's place.
     
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    Personally, I wear skirts and cullottes 24/7. A lot of people give me the "how-did-you-escape-out-of-Bedlam?" look when I wear cullottes on the job, and they're always like, "Welll, it's a lot easier to work in jeans," etc. I beg to differ. You wouldn't believe the jobs I've found myself in, and I've managed just fine, thanks for asking.:thumbs: I don't think I'm a notch above anyone else, by the way, but I do think Satan is trying to eliminate the differences between males and females, and dress is an important tool he's using.
    DRF
     
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