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Would God just give up on some christians?

TCGreek

New Member
xdisciplex said:
I have a friend who I email with and who I talk to about problems which I have.
He had the idea of creating a list in a google document which we both can work on where I can write down problems and also solutions.
He pushed me to do this even though I was not convinced that this makes any sense. I know my problems well but for some there are no real solutions then where is the sense of writing them down? And even if there are solutions then writing them down doesn't mean that everything is fine and that I will attack one problem at a time and just do it. This may seem nice on a paper but real life is different. I'm no machine and I'm having a hard time to motivate myself and so on. There are days where I'm depressed and then I do nothing and waste my time. And now he became impatient with me and wrote me this:

> I meant that your lack of commitment and desire for true
> change truly evident
. I am very close to just giving you up to satan
> because of this. And I feel that God often feels the same for you. If
> you aren't willing to completely commit yourself to God and the
> necessary changes to do that, I just can't see how he can ever
> accomplish a thing with you and through you when you constantly put up
> road blocks.

What if he is right and God wants to give up on me? :tear:

God never gives up on His children whom He has called to Himself for eternal fellowship.

"God is faithful, who has called you into fellowship with his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord" (1 Cor 1:9, TNIV).
 

SeekingHisTruth

New Member
Does it mean that you feel warm and fuzzy when you watch them or what does it mean?
That is a fair question. The Greek word used is agape, which means to value your enemies. That doesn't mean you have to have a warm and fuzzy feeling, but it seems to mean that you value them as human beings and as folks that God wants to see come to salvation.

Hope that helps a bit.
 

xdisciplex

New Member
But is it even possible to love your enemies?
For example if there is a christian soldier in Iraq and there are terrorists which try to kill him then it's either they or him. How can he love these people? This doesn't make sense to me. If he loves them then how can he defend himself and shoot them?

God never gives up on His children whom He has called to Himself for eternal fellowship.

"God is faithful, who has called you into fellowship with his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord" (1 Cor 1:9, TNIV).

Does this mean that God could never be fed up and then just let a person have her own way?
 

eightball

New Member
xdisciplex said:
I have a friend who I email with and who I talk to about problems which I have.
He had the idea of creating a list in a google document which we both can work on where I can write down problems and also solutions.
He pushed me to do this even though I was not convinced that this makes any sense. I know my problems well but for some there are no real solutions then where is the sense of writing them down? And even if there are solutions then writing them down doesn't mean that everything is fine and that I will attack one problem at a time and just do it. This may seem nice on a paper but real life is different. I'm no machine and I'm having a hard time to motivate myself and so on. There are days where I'm depressed and then I do nothing and waste my time. And now he became impatient with me and wrote me this:

> I meant that your lack of commitment and desire for true
> change truly evident
. I am very close to just giving you up to satan
> because of this. And I feel that God often feels the same for you. If
> you aren't willing to completely commit yourself to God and the
> necessary changes to do that, I just can't see how he can ever
> accomplish a thing with you and through you when you constantly put up
> road blocks.

What if he is right and God wants to give up on me? :tear:

We humans aren't cut out of the same cookie cutter when God made us. We all have different learning curves based on our innate free-will or willingness to see, abide, or commit to God's will.

What I thought was full commitment 20 years ago, seems very shallow indeed compared to where my walk or life in Christ is now.

Life on earth for the Christian is God's teaching ground to mold us into beings more Christlike. Some of us will not respond as quickly or easily as others. Some of us need a slight pat on the behind to get with the act and realize how trully inept and incapable of forging through life successfully on our own without heeding the Holy Spirit is, while others of us need a good wack on the side of the head with a 2x4 from God. We are all loved greatly by our Creator, us Christians. God knitted us in our mother's wombs, and knows us inside and out. He's got us in process, whether we know it or not. If we realize it, we begin to cooperate with Him and most likely the sanctification process in our individual lives speeds up.

Yes, one can be a Christian and not desire growth or more intimate communion with their Creator. It has so much to do with inside and outside elements in our lives. Some of us are just so headstrong, and some of us are more pliable.
 

David Lamb

Well-Known Member
xdisciplex said:
But is it even possible to love your enemies?
For example if there is a christian soldier in Iraq and there are terrorists which try to kill him then it's either they or him. How can he love these people? This doesn't make sense to me. If he loves them then how can he defend himself and shoot them?

God never gives up on His children whom He has called to Himself for eternal fellowship.

"God is faithful, who has called you into fellowship with his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord" (1 Cor 1:9, TNIV).

Does this mean that God could never be fed up and then just let a person have her own way?
Becoming and living as a Christian involve many "impossible" things, because both are accomplished by an almighty God Who delights to do what we think of as "impossible". For instance, God says that the wages of sin is death, yet He saves sinners in such a way that His perfect justice remains intact. In the same way, no Christian can claim that they manage to love their enemies by their own ability; they need God's help.



To imagine that God could ever get fed up with, and cast off someone He has saved just does not line up with Scripture. Sinners don't save themselves. Jesus Christ saves them. Hebrews 7.25:
Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.


"To the uttermost" - His salvation is complete in every sense. Certainly Christians still sin, and in doing so they displease God, but as John wrote to Christians, in 1 John 1.9:

If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.



 
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