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I am of the belief that sometimes we need to unite around what unifies and stay silent on that which divides. Honestly, what good does it do to stand up on my (ideological) soap box and yell at my friends as they celebrate Christ in their midst?
And Baptists manipulate their children into "saying a prayer" and baptized them when their 5 or 6 and then tell them they are saved and cannot lose their salvation.Stay silent on that which divides? You mean the Gospel of Jesus Christ? I'm ashamed to hear a christian saw they would stay silent and allow someone to propogate a false belief that one can be saved through infant baptism.
I grew up in Episcopalian churches and people go to church each Sunday with a false sense of security, because they were sprinkled as a baby. It's stunning to me how many are literally going to hell because of this heretical practice.
And Baptists manipulate their children into "saying a prayer" and baptized them when their 5 or 6 and then tell them they are saved and cannot lose their salvation.
Not much of a difference, IMHO.
I have Presbyterian and RCA family members. This is not a salvific or moral issue. Yes, I'd attend, out of support for the family. Unless asked, I'd keep my religious opinions to myself.If a friend of yours asked you to attend the sprinkling (aka baptistm) of thier infant, would you attend?
Yes, but I wouldn't say anything. Reason being they can sprinkle that baby all they want, or an adult can be dunk into every lake, pool, or sea yearly, if neither is of the Lord's people, it doesn't change that fact...he/she is none of His. hic. (scuse me, just got in from the alcohol thread...lol).
The question wasn't about salvation. The question was about attending an infant baptism.
I understand that it is about an infant baptism. The problem is that in many of these churches that practice infant baptism, the members of the congregation believe that the infant baptism equates to salvation. As I stated previously, I grew up in Episcopalian churches. If you asked the pastor directly he would tell you that the infant baptism is just a demonstration by the parents to raise the child correctly. However, most of the families that are having their infant baptised believe that the baptism grants their little one salvation. The lie is then passed on to the little one as they get older and their parents instruct them that they were sprinkled and that because of that they'll be in heaven.
I know you guys don't want to believe that people getting their babies sprinkled believe that it gives salvation to the child, but they do believe it. I've been there and heard it and witnessed it.
And Baptists manipulate their children into "saying a prayer" and baptized them when their 5 or 6 and then tell them they are saved and cannot lose their salvation.
Not much of a difference, IMHO
You're referring to baptismal regeneration. That's a different topic from infant baptism. (noted by the fact that those same churches an adult being baptised is also saved through the same mechanism).I understand that it is about an infant baptism. The problem is that in many of these churches that practice infant baptism, the members of the congregation believe that the infant baptism equates to salvation.
You're referring to baptismal regeneration. That's a different topic from infant baptism. (noted by the fact that those same churches an adult being baptised is also saved through the same mechanism).
Presbyterian, Reformed, Clavinist, and many other Reformation-era churches practice infant baptism, but not as a means of salvation. Hence, it's incorrect to presume a belief in baptismal rergeneration simply because the practice of paedobaptism exists.
Again, infant baptism and salvation are two different topics.