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Zelensky was our puppet, not a hero.

asterisktom

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Why are so many Westerners, Americans especially, so prone to think Ukraine is a democracy and that Zelensky is a hero? Zelensky is a puppet that we installed because we did not like the person the Ukrainians chose in their own free election, Viktor Yanukovych.

Our country does this often. It happened in Iraq (along with the UK) in the 50s, in Guatemala before that, and in Vietnam. (In Vietnam we made a big claim of fighting for democracy. We were not. We were battling the consequences of our own undemocratic machinations from the 50s).

"The republics of Lugansk and Donetsk in the Donbass region (LPR and DPR) declared independence after the 2014 US-backed coup in Kiev that saw democratically elected President Viktor Yanukovych overthrown.
"The coup government subsequently passed anti-Russian language laws, affecting the largely Russian-speaking population of the two Donbass republics."

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/02/no_author/hypocrites-on-parade-john-pilger-calls-out-world-leaders-for-ignoring-donbass-shelling-for-years/
 

canadyjd

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Why are so many Westerners, Americans especially, so prone to think Ukraine is a democracy and that Zelensky is a hero? Zelensky is a puppet that we installed because we did not like the person the Ukrainians chose in their own free election, Viktor Yanukovych.

Our country does this often. It happened in Iraq (along with the UK) in the 50s, in Guatemala before that, and in Vietnam. (In Vietnam we made a big claim of fighting for democracy. We were not. We were battling the consequences of our own undemocratic machinations from the 50s).

"The republics of Lugansk and Donetsk in the Donbass region (LPR and DPR) declared independence after the 2014 US-backed coup in Kiev that saw democratically elected President Viktor Yanukovych overthrown.
"The coup government subsequently passed anti-Russian language laws, affecting the largely Russian-speaking population of the two Donbass republics."

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/02/no_author/hypocrites-on-parade-john-pilger-calls-out-world-leaders-for-ignoring-donbass-shelling-for-years/
Another pro-Russia, antiAmerica smear.

peace to you
 

AustinC

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So, let's be honest. The US government and Russian government are being run by antichrist. The evil we see in this world is antichrist. Our King is Sovereign over all the Kingdoms of this world and He is not silent.
Pray for the welfare of the city in which you are exiles for in its welfare is your welfare.
May God protect and keep his children who are living in a city that has no peace.
 

Benjamin

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Can't remember another time that while a country is facing overwhelming odds to be taken over that not only didn't the President evacuate BUT Ukraine's president, and former president I might add picked picked up arms and are joining the fight in the streets. Zelensky is a hero and this Op is merely a sorry attempt at Russian propaganda.
 

canadyjd

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Straight to ad hominem. I expected nothing less from you. A true patriot doesn't have "My country, right or wrong" as his mantra.
When you vomit out pro-Russia, anti-American propaganda, you deserve to be exposed as the pro-communist Putin puppet that you are.

peace to you
 

canadyjd

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So, let's be honest. The US government and Russian government are being run by antichrist. The evil we see in this world is antichrist. Our King is Sovereign over all the Kingdoms of this world and He is not silent.
Pray for the welfare of the city in which you are exiles for in its welfare is your welfare.
May God protect and keep his children who are living in a city that has no peace.
So, to be honest, you have zero credibility to comment on this subject, since you have praised Russia with pro-communist, anti-America propaganda in other threads, and praised the persecution, and death, of certain groups of people at the hands of the brutal communist dictator, Putin, claiming Russia has a higher moral standing of the US.

Now, once again, you make a “moral equivalence” argument that Russia and the US are equally evil.

Peace to you
 

asterisktom

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Why are so many Westerners, Americans especially, so prone to think Ukraine is a democracy and that Zelensky is a hero? Zelensky is a puppet that we installed because we did not like the person the Ukrainians chose in their own free election, Viktor Yanukovych.

Our country does this often. It happened in Iraq (along with the UK) in the 50s, in Guatemala before that, and in Vietnam. (In Vietnam we made a big claim of fighting for democracy. We were not. We were battling the consequences of our own undemocratic machinations from the 50s).

"The republics of Lugansk and Donetsk in the Donbass region (LPR and DPR) declared independence after the 2014 US-backed coup in Kiev that saw democratically elected President Viktor Yanukovych overthrown.
"The coup government subsequently passed anti-Russian language laws, affecting the largely Russian-speaking population of the two Donbass republics."

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/02/no_author/hypocrites-on-parade-john-pilger-calls-out-world-leaders-for-ignoring-donbass-shelling-for-years/

I do not know why but the Lew Rockwell link does not work as shown above. But if you go to:
Lew Rockwell.com

then look for the article titled "Hypocrites on Parade" in the search bar it should work. It did for me, at least.
 

AustinC

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So, to be honest, you have zero credibility to comment on this subject, since you have praised Russia with pro-communist, anti-America propaganda in other threads, and praised the persecution, and death, of certain groups of people at the hands of the brutal communist dictator, Putin, claiming Russia has a higher moral standing of the US.

Now, once again, you make a “moral equivalence” argument that Russia and the US are equally evil.

Peace to you
LOL, I have castigated both governments, not praised them. Take off your "God is an American" sunglasses for a minute.
 

Reynolds

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Can't remember another time that while a country is facing overwhelming odds to be taken over that not only didn't the President evacuate BUT Ukraine's president, and former president I might add picked picked up arms and are joining the fight in the streets. Zelensky is a hero and this Op is merely a sorry attempt at Russian propaganda.
Zelensky is one of the most corrupt politicians on planet earth.
 

canadyjd

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I do not know why but the Lew Rockwell link does not work as shown above. But if you go to:
Lew Rockwell.com

then look for the article titled "Hypocrites on Parade" in the search bar it should work. It did for me, at least.
Follow the link to communist propaganda at your own risk.

Perhaps it worked for you because you are identified as a “comrade in good standing” among the peo-Russia, anti-America crowd.

peace to you
 
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canadyjd

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LOL, I have castigated both governments, not praised them. Take off your "God is an American" sunglasses for a minute.
I have no illusions about the problems we have in the US. But I can still see the difference between a brutal dictator killing innocent civilians in another country and our problems here.

And, FTR, when you take off your “Trump is the anti-Christ” glasses, I’ll take another look at mine.

peace to you
 

canadyjd

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And if you believe videos, Putin is still an active sniper in the Russian Army.
He turned down the “free ride out of the country” offered by Biden and asked for bullets instead.

I think that might indicate something of his character.

peace to you
 

Reformed1689

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Why are so many Westerners, Americans especially, so prone to think Ukraine is a democracy and that Zelensky is a hero? Zelensky is a puppet that we installed because we did not like the person the Ukrainians chose in their own free election, Viktor Yanukovych.

Our country does this often. It happened in Iraq (along with the UK) in the 50s, in Guatemala before that, and in Vietnam. (In Vietnam we made a big claim of fighting for democracy. We were not. We were battling the consequences of our own undemocratic machinations from the 50s).

"The republics of Lugansk and Donetsk in the Donbass region (LPR and DPR) declared independence after the 2014 US-backed coup in Kiev that saw democratically elected President Viktor Yanukovych overthrown.
"The coup government subsequently passed anti-Russian language laws, affecting the largely Russian-speaking population of the two Donbass republics."

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/02/no_author/hypocrites-on-parade-john-pilger-calls-out-world-leaders-for-ignoring-donbass-shelling-for-years/
You do know Zelensky wasn't elected until 2019 right? To say he was not elected freely, five years after Yanukovych was removed is ridiculous. In fact, he is the third president since Yanukovych. So this is a laugh at best.

He also won decisively in an election by the people. Are you saying he did not? And do you realize you quoted a site copyrighted by SPUTNIK news? upload_2022-2-27_15-31-6.png
 

canadyjd

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You do know Zelensky wasn't elected until 2019 right? To say he was not elected freely, five years after Yanukovych was removed is ridiculous. In fact, he is the third president since Yanukovych. So this is a laugh at best.

He also won decisively in an election by the people. Are you saying he did not? And do you realize you quoted a site copyrighted by SPUTNIK news? View attachment 5880
Of course he knows. He regurgitates Russian propaganda on a regular basis.

peace to you
 
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