Rightly Understanding Mark 16 Will End All Doubts as to Its Authenticity

[JD731]

In other words, you are in effect claiming that the KJV is not based on perfect sources since you refuse to accept its own underlying original-language texts of Scripture as a greater authority than the human translation decisions of one exclusive group of Church of England scholars in 1611 even though those texts were used to make 2,000 changes and corrections to the 1611 edition.

Here is my original question to you.

JD731 said:
One reason the KJV is real is because it is the only Bible on earth today that anyone believes is the word of God.


What Bible do you believe is the word of God.

 

[JD731]

The 1611 KJV is not the only Bible on earth today that anyone believes is the word of God.

The 1611 KJV is the word of God translated into English in the same sense (univocally) as the pre-1611 English Bibles are the word of God translated into English. The word of God had been translated into English many years before 1611.

Most KJV editions in print today have over 2,000 changes, revisions, and corrections when compared to the original 1611 edition of the KJV. According to a consistent application of the assertions made by several KJV-only authors, today's KJV editions would be a different Bible than the 1611 edition.

Believing a modern, non-scriptural theory concerning the KJV does not make the word of God bound to the textual criticism decisions, Bible revision decisions, and translation decisions of one exclusive group of Church of England critics in 1611.

Maybe you are right and there is no actual word of God after the original copies of the inspired texts because they all have errors. The fact that many were saved without a written scripture for years after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and the gospel was spread exclusively by word of mouth until the first NT epistle was written by James in 45 AD, proves it does not take a perfect Bible, or any Bible for that matter, to get saved. It just takes a preacher with a personal testimony and a sure faith in the promises of God. It has pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them which believe, he says. Of course there were apostles until the scriptures were complete who were invested with the authority of Jesus Christ (see Jn 20) until all the scriptures were written, then the apostles were taken away and the scriptures (their recorded words) became the sole authority.

Maybe you are right and there is no actual word of God after the original copies of the inspired texts because since then they all have copy errors and we have no sure way to determine what are errors. The fact that many were saved without a written scripture for years after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and the gospel was spread exclusively by word of mouth until the first inspired NT epistle was written by James in 45 AD, proves it does not take a perfect Bible on scene, or any Bible for that matter, to get saved. It just takes a preacher with a personal testimony and a sure faith in the promises of God through Jesus Christ. It has pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them which believe, he says. Of course there were living apostles until the scriptures were completed who were invested with the authority of Jesus Christ (see Jn 20) until all the scriptures were written, then the apostles were taken away and the NT scriptures (their recorded words) became the sole authority for those who were saved by the gospel.
I just have a hard time agreeing with your implications that the authority of of the perfect and inspired testimony of God and the authority of his inspiration of his words is diminished because of time and circumstances, language barriers in translations, and the death of the eye witnesses. I could see myself believing what you believe if the testimony and the written record were only those of the authors of the NT but that is not what the NT is. It is the testimony and record and revelation of God the Father. The axe cannot boast against the hewer of wood.

1Co 2:1 ¶ And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. 2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
1Jo 5:10 ¶ He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

Thank you for your answer to my question.

 

[KJB1611reader]

Maybe you are right and there is no actual word of God after the original copies of the inspired texts because they all have errors. The fact that many were saved without a written scripture for years after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and the gospel was spread exclusively by word of mouth until the first NT epistle was written by James in 45 AD, proves it does not take a perfect Bible, or any Bible for that matter, to get saved. It just takes a preacher with a personal testimony and a sure faith in the promises of God. It has pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them which believe, he says. Of course there were apostles until the scriptures were complete who were invested with the authority of Jesus Christ (see Jn 20) until all the scriptures were written, then the apostles were taken away and the scriptures (their recorded words) became the sole authority.

Maybe you are right and there is no actual word of God after the original copies of the inspired texts because since then they all have copy errors and we have no sure way to determine what are errors. The fact that many were saved without a written scripture for years after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and the gospel was spread exclusively by word of mouth until the first inspired NT epistle was written by James in 45 AD, proves it does not take a perfect Bible on scene, or any Bible for that matter, to get saved. It just takes a preacher with a personal testimony and a sure faith in the promises of God through Jesus Christ. It has pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them which believe, he says. Of course there were living apostles until the scriptures were completed who were invested with the authority of Jesus Christ (see Jn 20) until all the scriptures were written, then the apostles were taken away and the NT scriptures (their recorded words) became the sole authority for those who were saved by the gospel.
I just have a hard time agreeing with your implications that the authority of of the perfect and inspired testimony of God and the authority of his inspiration of his words is diminished because of time and circumstances, language barriers in translations, and the death of the eye witnesses. I could see myself believing what you believe if the testimony and the written record were only those of the authors of the NT but that is not what the NT is. It is the testimony and record and revelation of God the Father. The axe cannot boast against the hewer of wood.

1Co 2:1 ¶ And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. 2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
1Jo 5:10 ¶ He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

Thank you for your answer to my question.

Amen sir.