Did Jesus cease being God's Son on the Cross?

[JesusFan]

Wrong. That is not biblical (that is not in the Bible).

Biblical refers to the teachings of Scripture, which Jesus referred to as "what is written" in Scripture.

Your belief has nothing to do with God's Word but instead are theories of men.

Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53

 

[JesusFan]

Ok......I don't want you banned again either (although we disagree I like you here).

So upon reflection it appears you simply have not grasped why my view does not present Jesus as a martyr.

This may not excuse your false accusations as I pointed out that I didn't present Jesus as a martyr, but it explains your error.

Technically one dying for his beluef is a martyr, but the difference is a martyer's death does not actually accomplish something (the aftermath may, but the death itself doesn't).

Jesus was not a martyr because His death accomplished man's reconciliation to God. On the cross God was reconciling man to Himself and it is on this basis we urge men to be reconciled to God. We are reconciled through Jesus' death and saved through His life.

Why and what did Jesus die for upon that cross then?

 

[JonC]

In the context, it refers to should one get capital punishment's for a crime/sin that they never did, but a family member did do , nothing to do with the cross of Christ

In the context it states that sins cannot be transferred from one person to another but instead that the one who sins must die unless that person repents.

That you cannot see a relationship between the passage in Ezekiel and our redemption is most likely because you have chosen blinders as the passage directly contradicts your theories of the cross.

 

[JonC]

Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53

You ate just tossing up passages to see 8f they stick. This one doesn't either.

Read Isaiah 53. There are parts of it you deny (as evidenced by your understanding of Jesus being forsaken).

Nowhere in Isaiah 53 is God said to judge Jesus as a sinner. The people erroneous judged Jesus as stricken by God, but He was saving them (there is a contrast in the passage).

Try again Hero. This time type out the oart that says God judged Jesus as a sinner.

 

[JonC]

Why and what did Jesus die for upon that cross then?

We were reconciled by Christ's death, saved by His life.

On the Cross God was reconciling mankind to Himself, not counting their sins against them. On this basis we urge men to be reconciled to God. The lost are condemned because the Light has come into the World and they rejected the Light because their deeds were evil. They remain in their sins, but their condemnation is Christ-centered.

 

[JesusFan]

You ate just tossing up passages to see 8f they stick. This one doesn't either.

Read Isaiah 53. There are parts of it you deny (as evidenced by your understanding of Jesus being forsaken).

Nowhere in Isaiah 53 is God said to judge Jesus as a sinner. The people erroneous judged Jesus as stricken by God, but He was saving them (there is a contrast in the passage).

Try again Hero. This time type out the oart that says God judged Jesus as a sinner.

God the Father judged us in Christ Jesus for our sins, that is why he was the sin bearer upon that Cross

 

[JesusFan]

We were reconciled by Christ's death, saved by His life.

On the Cross God was reconciling mankind to Himself, not counting their sins against them. On this basis we urge men to be reconciled to God. The lost are condemned because the Light has come into the World and they rejected the Light because their deeds were evil. They remain in their sins, but their condemnation is Christ-centered.

How was thje wrath of God appeased then while Jesus was upon that Cross? Was Jesus enduring exactly what?