Crazy George?

[dianetavegia]

Originally posted by DavidFWhite3:
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Yep. He's grasping at more straws than a 3 year old in McDonalds.

posted by DavidFWhite3: Actually he is making some very valid points, and you, unable to respond, resort to insult. </font>[/QUOTE]

Originally posted by DavidFWhite3:
This is my first visit to the Politics Board, so I am trying to be objective. My objective observation is that Tragic Pizza cannot read, or will not read whatever he has concluded will be to his disliking. I think this kinder than saying he sounds like a lunatic. So if I am wrong and he actually can read, he is a lunatic.

and you, unable to respond, resort to insult.

 

[Daisy]

You're questioning his objectivity based on his home church's policy of inclusiveness and outreach to the marginalized?

 

[ballfan]

Originally posted by Daisy:
You're questioning his objectivity based on his home church's policy of inclusiveness and outreach to the marginalized?

Yep. Thats article tells me he has a liberal bias.

 

[Daisy]

Do you consider yourself biased?

 

[ballfan]

Originally posted by Daisy:
Do you consider yourself biased?

Absolutely. Can't you tell? I have a conservative Republican bias.

Now what does that have to do with whether or not he is biased?

Your bias seems to be a liberal Democratic one from what I've seen.

I don't see anyone here argueing from a non partisan view.

 

[Daisy]

Well, of course, I can tell you're biased, but I was wondering if you thought you were - a different question altogether.

So do you think someone coming from that church/bias is any less able to be objective than anyone else?

 

[ballfan]

Originally posted by Daisy:
Well, of course, I can tell you're biased, but I was wondering if you thought you were - a different question altogether.

So do you think someone coming from that church/bias is any less able to be objective than anyone else?

That homosexuals attend that church doesn't bother me much. Nor do the agnostics. I don't know their situations. Maybe they are searching for answers.

The homosexual assistant pastor is a different thing altogether. They knowingly put her into that position. That causes me to wonder about the entire situation. That takes a certain mindset that I see as being out of touch.

The reason I questioned his objectivity is that he claimed he was being objective. The mindset of the church he goes to and accepts its practices shows he is not the objective person he claims. He will have a bias against conservative values. I think those of that mindset are unable to be as objective than others.

 

[Daisy]

Do you think that people with mindsets such as yours can be objective about liberal values?

 

[dianetavegia]

liberal values?
liberals HAVE values????

 

[Daisy]

Yes, Diane, we do.

 

[ballfan]

Originally posted by Daisy:
Do you think that people with mindsets such as yours can be objective about liberal values?

Absolutely. Many liberal values are simply wrong. Like abortion for instance. Like support for making the homosexual community an accepted normal community like there is nothing wrong with it.

You're a liberal. You believe theses things are OK don't you.

 

[Daisy]

So you think that conservatives can be objective, but liberals cannot, because their values stink?

 

[Terry_Herrington]

Originally posted by Daisy:
Yes, Diane, we do.

Do all liberals think that we should have perverts pastoring our churches? Maybe they do in the First Church of Sodom, but not in any church that the Lord Jesus Christ has anything to do with.

 

[Daisy]

Terry, I wouldn't know what all liberals think as each thinks for himself.

 

[Pennsylvania Jim]

Originally posted by dianetavegia:
liberal values?
liberals HAVE values????

Sure, and they stand by them by supporting liberal candidates.

Conservatives, on the other hand, support liberals in an attempt to be in the majority.

That's values for ya.

No wonder we're losing.

 

[ballfan]

Originally posted by Daisy:
So you think that conservatives can be objective, but liberals cannot, because their values stink?

They don't have the burden of defending things that are evil in nature. It makes being objective eaiser for them not that they or anyone else can be totally objective.

Lets see how objective you are.

Now is abortion OK with you?

Do you consider homosexuality to be a normal lifestyle? Or do you consider it to be perversion?

Is it OK for a church to have homosexuals as pastors?

 

[Terry_Herrington]

Notice that Daisy has yet to answer these two important questions.

 

[dianetavegia]

Originally posted by Daisy:
So you think that conservatives can be objective, but liberals cannot, because their values stink?

Well.. yeah... that's about how I'd put it!

Al Rantel
Saturday, Mar. 06, 2004
Conservatives are afraid you don’t know what we believe, and Liberals are afraid you do know what they believe.

 

[Daisy]

Originally posted by Terry_Herrington:
Notice that Daisy has yet to answer these two important questions.

Gee, Terry, life intervenes. Besides which, I count four questions which I haven't answered.

 

[Daisy]

Originally posted by ballfan:
They [conservatives] don't have the burden of defending things that are evil in nature. It makes being objective eaiser for them not that they or anyone else can be totally objective.

Or at least they think they don't.

Lets see how objective you are.

Now is abortion OK with you?

Do you consider homosexuality to be a normal lifestyle? Or do you consider it to be perversion?

Is it OK for a church to have homosexuals as pastors?

What have your questions which are subjective in nature (ok or not ok) got to do with being "objective"? I wonder if we mean the same thing by the word....

To me, being objective is to put aside my personal feelings and view something disinterestedly, perhaps from someone else's pov, perhaps from more than one. For you?