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Lacy Evans

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I saw Ruckman preach about a month ago in Monahans Texas. I took my boys. 82 years old and going strong. It was a blessing.

Lacy
 
rsr

rsr

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You just have to dig a little deeper to find this on the site from which the first one came:

BIBLE BELIEVERS

Pastor Paulson has this to say on his Web site:

We are no longer associated with Dr. Peter S Ruckman, although we believe his 'materials' are the finest available, minus a few 'oddities' within his teachings - too many have to be reminded these days that PSR is just a man like all the rest. We do believe his material on the KJV is some of the finest available!!
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Gershom

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rsr posted:

You just have to dig a little deeper to find this on the site from which the first one came:

BIBLE BELIEVERS

Pastor Paulson has this to say on his Web site:

quote:We are no longer associated with Dr. Peter S Ruckman, although we believe his 'materials' are the finest available, minus a few 'oddities' within his teachings - too many have to be reminded these days that PSR is just a man like all the rest. We do believe his material on the KJV is some of the finest available!!
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This was from biblebelievers.com ? I couldn't find the quote anywhere in the article from the link provided or anywhere else on the site. In fact, I couldn't find one link to anything regarding Ruckman. No article, no doctrinal studies, no version issues - nothing. Not one mention of Peter Ruckman on the entire website. And this is a site run by "Ruckmandroids?"
 
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rsr

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Pardon. Bad link because of form structure. This is Bible Believers links page (from which the first reference was made), replete with Ruckman, Gipp, Riplinger (and Burgon, to be fair):

BIBLE BELIEVERS' LINKS PAGE

The quote in my above post was from Pastor Paulson's church home page:

WELCOME TO TOUCHET BAPTIST CHURCH

Some more from Touchet:

For years, many of you already know that I have been against these Bible Colleges, anyway, knowing full well that they are liars when it comes to the King James Bible. My thanks again to Dr. Ruckman & Dr. Samuel Gipp for what they have 'warned' me about in these regards. If it wasn't for them, my kids would possibly either not be saved or would at least be caught up in this deceptive Christianity; and secondly, my kids would probably have attended one of these schools and by now they would have been King James 'users' but not believers!

... That statement that the King James Bible CORRECTS the TR angers those PCC and BJU folks because of Dr. Ruckman's courage and willingness to tell it like it was, is and will be. They must be figuring that he is about to die, so I honestly believe that they are setting up their perimeters so that when the viscious "junkyard dog" is finally gone, their plan is to move in with their 'good greek' - the TR - the textus receptus, and once and for all, put the power back in their own brains and edjukation with their own knowledge of the Greek.

... For us here in Touchet Baptist Church, I will continue to preach even harder that the Greek is a dead language. "Going back to the Greek" will not be tolerated for whatever reason. We have the King James Bible and that is all we need. If you want a Bible in another language, take it from the King James Bible. If you can't read English, you had better hurry up and learn it! Time is running short! ...
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COMING OUT OF THE CLOSET

If it walks like a duck ...

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Gershom

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rsr,

If you click the link in your last post marked as "BIBLE BELIEVERS' LINK PAGE" you will see that it is actually the "Links Page" from "The Believers Organization" website and not from "Bible Believers (.com)"

The Bible Believers (.com) website does not offer anything from Ruckman, which is what I've been saying all along here and why I take issue with the "Ruckmandroids" accusation from another poster.
 
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rsr

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The original article, though it appears on biblebelievers.com, is taken from The Believers Organization, whose "blessed" links I have provided.

Seems pretty much an endorsement of Ruckman, since he figures prominently in the links.
 
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NaasPreacher (C4K)

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The links in Ransom's articles above are the kind of things that cause me really question my KJV usage. I do not want to be associated with that kind of stuff. There was a quote in one of the articles about the blah, blah, blah 1769 edition of the 1611AV with a few corrections made well into the 1800's.

I still ask - "IF IT WAS PERFECT WHY DID IT HAVE TO BE CORRECTED?"
 
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Ransom

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Gershom asked:

You just go around assuming all KJVO people are "Ruckmandroids?"

The domains www.biblebelievers.com and www.touchet1611.org are not "all KJVO people." They are sites that promote the bizarre pseudotheology usually associated with Dr. Petey Ruckman.

It is, of course, disingenuous to claim that just because you cannot find the name "Ruckman" on the site, the views espoused thereon have nothing to do with Dr. Petey.

In your quest to disparage, you've brought into the light your own lack of discernment and willful ignorance.

It appears I know the contents of KJV-only Web sites and the peculiarities of their webmasters better than the KJV-onlyists do. You gotta laugh.
 
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DeclareHim

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Originally posted by rsr:



Some more from Touchet:

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> For years, many of you already know that I have been against these Bible Colleges, anyway, knowing full well that they are liars when it comes to the King James Bible. My thanks again to Dr. Ruckman & Dr. Samuel Gipp for what they have 'warned' me about in these regards. If it wasn't for them, my kids would possibly either not be saved or would at least be caught up in this deceptive Christianity; and secondly, my kids would probably have attended one of these schools and by now they would have been King James 'users' but not believers!

... That statement that the King James Bible CORRECTS the TR angers those PCC and BJU folks because of Dr. Ruckman's courage and willingness to tell it like it was, is and will be. They must be figuring that he is about to die, so I honestly believe that they are setting up their perimeters so that when the viscious "junkyard dog" is finally gone, their plan is to move in with their 'good greek' - the TR - the textus receptus, and once and for all, put the power back in their own brains and edjukation with their own knowledge of the Greek.

... For us here in Touchet Baptist Church, I will continue to preach even harder that the Greek is a dead language. "Going back to the Greek" will not be tolerated for whatever reason. We have the King James Bible and that is all we need. If you want a Bible in another language, take it from the King James Bible. If you can't read English, you had better hurry up and learn it! Time is running short! ...
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</font>[/QUOTE]This kind of belief is hysterical. Absolutely stupid. I can't believe they can believe this. With absoletuly no proof why the KJV is better than anyother translation. Except the MV's highly value the mss which these guys seem to disregard as much as there trash.
 
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Ransom

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DeclareHim said:

With absoletuly no proof why the KJV is better than anyother translation.

Yeah, I've tried to interact with Paulson about this stuff. He stonewalls. Lately he's also had a change of "ministry" - no doubt so he can pontificate ex cathedra about the subject of music instead (I am hard pressed to find evidence he knows any more about that subject than the translation and transmission of the Bible).
 
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Gershom

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Gershom said:

The Bible Believers (.com) website does not offer anything from Ruckman,

Ransom said:

quote:
Ordering Information for the Bible Believers' Bulletin (BBB):
Address:

Bible Believers' Bulletin
PO Box 7135
Pensacola, FL 32534
NEW TOLL-FREE NUMBER FOR PLACING ORDERS: 1-888-KJV-1611

http://www.biblebelievers.com/BBBorderingInfo.html

The Bible Believer's Bull-etin is, of course, Dr. Petey's very own rant-rag.
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Where did you find this link? I clicked every link at the site and came up with nothing, and still cannot find this one. What did you click on at the Bible Believers website to find it? I know you have the address, but I'd like to know what link you clicked on at the site to get this to come up.
 
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