Wordly music or Christian Lyrics?

OK...so: How do you know a song is "rock?" How do you define it? And what if your definition doesn't jive with someone else's? For instance...most of us here would say that Steve Green's music is pretty tame and traditional. But Bill Gothard rails against it...calls it worldly. So who's right?

(and let's keep in mind...we're talking in generalities here: We all admit there's some theologically vapid music, whether traditional or modern).

 

Good question. I listen to a lot of music that could be country or rock, r&b or rock, or any combination thereof. But I suspect his objection isn't so much to "rock" as it is to anything that sounds contemporary.

 

Not sure about you guys, but we've been known to bite the heads off of bats during music time. It's pretty cool. Also once we passed around a bucket and asked everybody to spit in it, then the music minister drank it. When everybody REALLY gets fired up, our guitarist does a great Angus Young impression, convulsing all over the place while playing. When it's halloween Sunday, we rig up the drummer and his kit to overhead rigging and he flies over the audience and does a 45 minute drum solo instead of listening to the preacher. Our bass guy really likes Flea, so he will often get naked on stage in homage to him.

The craziest thing we ever did though, was play some Chris Tomlin songs and some folks were moved and ended up getting saved. Oh, the horror.

 

Tell me, what DOES Christian music sound like?

I never knew it was a genre. Is it classical? Is it bluegrass (personally shuddering)? Is it southern Gospel (again, shuddering)? Is it only the hymns of the 18th and 19th century? Or is only the Psalms?

And I assume we are talking about music in the US. At our church, sometimes the music has a Carribean feel to it. Why? Because a significant portion of our congregants are from the Carribean - including our senior pastor. Is that OK?

Again, Christian music is "Christian" because of the words -- not because of the beat (or lack thereof).

 

Shuddering here as well. :laugh:

I think Southern Gospel is definitely unbiblical because I don't like it. No not one bit! Yuk! I also don't like the big hair do's and toupees that go along with it.

My favorite group of ALL time is Casting Crowns. Tell me this isn't biblical.

WHO AM I?

Who am I , that the Lord of all the earth
would care to know my name?
Would care to feel my hurt.

Who am I, that the Bright and Morning Star
would choose to light the way
for my ever wandering heart?

Not because of who I am,
but because of what You've done,
not because of what I've done,
but because of who You are.

I am a flower quickly fading,
here today and gone tomorrow.
A wave tossed in the ocean,
a vapor in the wind.

Still You hear me when I'm calling.
Lord, You catch me when I'm falling,
and You've told me who I am.

I am Yours. I am Yours.

 

I would have problems with that in our church because it's too man centered to be worship. It's all about the person singing.

Now, if it's a song that inspires you or that you want to listen to for entertainment, that's another thing but I couldn't support it for worship.

 

I listen to this music when I drive. It is very inspiring to me. We mostly sing hymns at church.

 

Not because of who I am,
but because of what You've done,
not because of what I've done,
but because of who You are.

...is man centered? Give me a break! Nothing like someone stating what is or isn't good "worship" music!

 

Who am I , that the Lord of all the earth
would care to know my name?
Would care to feel my hurt.

Who am I, that the Bright and Morning Star
would choose to light the way
for my ever wandering heart?

Not because of who I am,
but because of what You've done,
not because of what I've done,
but because of who You are.

I am a flower quickly fading,
here today and gone tomorrow.
A wave tossed in the ocean,
a vapor in the wind.

Still You hear me when I'm calling.
Lord, You catch me when I'm falling,
and You've told me who I am.

Yeah, don't you just hate it when people have opinions that are different from yours?

 

Not quite... it's all about the person singing being nothing, totally insignificant compared to God, yet God is good enough that he takes them anyway. So, in an indirect way, it's all about God.

 

<quote=corndoggy>Wonder if you can write a Christian song in the key of A minor... </quote>

Yes... "You Are My Hiding Place".

 

Who am I , that the Lord of all the earth
would care to know my name?
Would care to feel my hurt.

Who am I, that the Bright and Morning Star
would choose to light the way
for my ever wandering heart?

Not because of who I am,
but because of what You've done,
not because of what I've done,
but because of who You are.

I am a flower quickly fading,
here today and gone tomorrow.
A wave tossed in the ocean,
a vapor in the wind.

Still You hear me when I'm calling.
Lord, You catch me when I'm falling,
and You've told me who I am.

I agree with corndoggy, it is all about God's grace. love and sovereignty (isn't that what worship music is?!?)...but there are those who will nit-pick the things they don't like and accurse them as being "worldly".

 

...which is worship, I might add.

 

If you want to sing it, then that's up to you, but that's no reason to put me down and misrepresent what I said. I never said it was "worldly". In fact, I even told the person who brought it up that, although I would not support it in our worship service, it's fine if she wants to listen to it.

Please, Webdog, you're worthy of better behavior than that.

 

Quote: I would have problems with that in our church because it's too man centered to be worship.

If this isn't the definition of worldly, I don't know what is. I'll take a broken, insignificant view of self as worship any day, as I believe God does as well. To not support this view is mind boggling.