Wordly music or Christian Lyrics?

SUCH Rebellion!!! Imagine singing this to God!

Strength will rise as we wait upon the Lord
We will wait upon the Lord
We will wait upon the Lord

Our God, You reign forever
Our hope, our Strong Deliverer
You are the everlasting God
The everlasting God
You do not faint
You won't grow weary

Our God, You reign forever
Our hope, our Strong Deliverer
You are the everlasting God
The everlasting God
You do not faint
You won't grow weary

You're the defender of the weak
You comfort those in need
You lift us up on wings like eagles

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric....Chris-Tomlin/01637EACF9194844482571F700070D82

 

OH, and what about this one...

God Rules​

GOD rules.
On your toes, everybody!
He rules from his angel throne--take notice!​

GOD looms
majestic in Zion,
He towers in splendor over
all the big names.​

Great and terrible your beauty:
let everyone praise you!
Holy. Yes, holy.​

How many of you would say that is horrible?
BTW, how many here have heard this song?
Any guessers on who sings this song?​

 

SO,

you seam to throw CCM with Rock and Roll. Very little CCM is Rock, most is POP. It ranges from Acoustic Guitars to piano to full rock band with those evil drums and such. So is your argument against CCM or Rock music? Are you against such music in the church or all together? Can you give me an example of what music you do like?

I promise no name calling from me.

 

And it was proven in the movie "Rock and Roll High School" that mice exploded when made to listen to the Ramones at high volume.

But that doesn't make rock and roll bad.

By whom?

Because we don't associate it with rebellion.

Your sylogism is fatally flawed.Your first premise assumes that rock and roll equals rebellion. It does not.

I didn't realize that relationships were against the very nature of God. Learn something new every day.

But my question is, what about that rock music that doesn't have anything to do with "drugs...drinking, smoking, cussing, being a 'hell raiser'. rebellion, etc"?

I can think of several rock songs that have nothing to do with those things.

I don't believe there will be rock and roll, rap, or other forms of CCM in Heaven, but not for the same reason you do. (Excuse me a second while I steele myself for the usual subjects to jump on me and say that I'm condemning rock and roll and people who listen to it)

I don't believe those things will be in Heaven, not because there is anything morally wrong with them, but because will have something better for us.

But in the mean time, we are here and this is what we have. As long as it does not glorify sin or encourage one to sin, there is nothing at all wrong with enjoying it.

((Uh oh, here come the Max Lucado fans.))

 

Yes, people in different churches can have different opinions.

I'll show some consistency when you show some manners.

I disagree. It has very much to do with perception, as we're seeing with the debate in this thread between Security Officer and several people here.

 

If the worst two teenagers are doing is listening to Christian rock, they're doing pretty dang good, and I would HARDLY call that being rebellious.

 

Exactly. If the attack was directed towards Christian bands that have a double bass drum, heavy distortion, playing chunky riffs in drop-D on the electric, and a crazy screaming front man, I could almost understand. Most of it just cannot be compared to the dark side of rock at all. If you CAN compare it, you really need to get out more. I HAVE heard bands like this, and I would almost agree, IF that is what we were talking about, but it's not.

 

And you're certainly welcome to your opinion but I, and others like me, who have never thought of rock and roll as having anything to do with rebellion, are evidence that not everyone associates it with rebellion.

Is sexual intimacy a bad thing?

Again, your sylogism is fatally flawed. Not only does rock and roll not equal sin, but there are many (if not most) rock songs that have nothing to do with sex, and sex is not sinful.

 

If you're not going to consider the lyrics, then the problem is that you've got the equation backwards. Just because sinful people like a particular kind of music, that does not mean that this particular kind of music makes people sinful.

You're obsessed with fairly recent history. Consider generations of the past. Gangsters and people in the speakeasy places listened to jazz, broadway musicals, a single piano, horns, etc. Old outlaw moonshiners listened to bluegrass. Whiskey drinking outlaws in the 1800's would listen to a single piano. Irish drunks would sing with no instruments in bars. Viking warriors while rowing would sing nearly identical to old nego spiritual songs.

You get the point. Does this mean all those styles are sinful? Just because a sinful group likes a particular kind of music doesn't mean that this style of music will make a person sinful, especially when you can't consider the lyrics at all.

 

That isn't bad.

Fornicating in the back seat of a car is bad. Using a slang term for fornicating in the back seat of a car does not make the thing that slang term is applied to bad.

If the name is all that's worrying you, then I have no problem with calling it something else. Let's say we call it "Puppies and Rainbows". Would it still be bad?

But it doesn't stand because not all of us associate it with rebellion. Like I said, I can think of dozens of rock songs that have nothing at all to do with rebellion.

 

Securityofficer...

In post #109, I asked some specific questions germane to the discussion. I realize that this is an active thread...but I have yet to see you address a single point made on that post. I'm not surprised...but I challenge you to read that particular post and respond. I think you will find that it is Scripturally informed, factually correct, and logically sound.

I await your response...

 

Don't feel bad, he won't answer my questions, either.