Wordly music or Christian Lyrics?

tinytim · Apr 18, 2009

I hope no one kneels at the ALTAR in church...

Muslims Kneel...

And Catholics have ALTARS...

SO.. do you have an altar in your church?

Pagans use Altars..
My sacrifice was on the altar 2000 yrs ago.. .
The Altar called Calvary.

Sorry Nodak.. your test will not work..
Some may look at something and call it pagan... others may not.

It is still subjective.

gekko · Apr 19, 2009

haha. wow.
this again eh.

so long ago since that time i started this kind of debate up. =P
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music cannot ever be christian or non-christian. moral or immoral.
there's no proof that it could be either or.
i think most agree with that.

rock? rap? folk? electronica? techno?

personally - i learned to stay closer to God and praise Him more when i was listening to LeCrae (for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCdSWc6BBTQ)
now - i know that's not worship music - and i wouldn't play that in church even.
but i learn more from listening to christian rap than listening to hymns. even alot of preachers out there.

now - personally (which is the fact of the matter - it's all personal preference)
i get into a more worship mindset just from the music itself.
not the lyrics.
i dont listen to the lyrics first. i hear the music.
you could say i judge the book by the cover - or the music by the note.

i do watch the lyrics though. don't get me wrong.

in the end. music is all personal preference. which shouldn't matter.
the lyrics though - that's what you gotta worry about.

this has probably been said over the last 25 pages. haha.
but - all i really wanted to add - was this:

(Fighting Temptations clip) - the ending is the best - always gets a laugh out of me =P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr0fkzeBzuU

God bless you all.
may the rap, rock and trip-hop given by christians tell a life-song that'll make you think.

peace.

nodak · Apr 19, 2009

Nope, Baptist (or baptistic) churches do not have altars and we do not kneel at altars. Altars are places of sacrifice, and we have none to offer, Christ having taken care of that.

And if you note, I was referring to the worship style, not the music when I mentioned turning off the sound. If we imitate pagan worship per se, we do not do it. My church does not do sand painting, walk labyrinthes, etc, because of that issue.

Now, as to lyrics, they need to be clearly Christian, not something anyone who believes in a generic God could comfortably sing.

Many years ago a nice Buddhist lady was coming to church where I attended. She came with her husband. She was happy as long as we sang, or taught, or preached about morals or about some generic God. But when we got specific, about Jesus as the only way, she got offended. Good and offended. Offended enough to think about what was being taught, and get saved.

That would never have happened with generic God talk and Buddhist like services.

securityofficer2008 · Apr 20, 2009

annsni said:
Why do people insist that rock music appeals to the flesh? Music appeals to my soul - from contemporary Christian, to rock, to classical. It all does the same thing to me.

Hebrews 13:8 (King James Version)

8Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

securityofficer2008 · Apr 20, 2009

sag38 said:
"Rock music with Christian lyrics brings about a lack of reverence toward God and toward His name."

Again, Security Officer is making proclamations that he cannot back up Biblically. Rather he is sharing his opinion which he has the right to do. However, if you want to be taken seriously give us scripture to support your position. Give us legitimate evidence.