Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

[StefanM]

OK, so now I can make a point. It seems stoning is ordained of God, and since God is love, the jump that stoning can be an act of love is a short one.

You go down that road if you wish.

Let's look at the conquest of Canaan. Was it loving to slaughter infants and toddlers?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

You go down that road if you wish.

Let's look at the conquest of Canaan. Was it loving to slaughter infants and toddlers?

How about Moab ? Israel was separated by a big sea, and had to travel thru other countries on both sides. How about the 200 Philistine foreskins ? All commanded by God.

I'm not saying it's easy to get the mind around. I'm saying God is love, and one of his tools in expressing it to Israel was extreme violence.

 

[Marcia]

I'll go with the grace and truth that came through Christ (cf. John 1) over the violence of the law any day.

But Christ's love did not accept sin. And Christ never denounced the law. He wrote the law as part of the Trinitarian Godhead.

And for the record, stoning someone isn't loving, regardless of whether or not the law speaks of it

But God commanded stoning in the OT because this was part of his judgment on sin. Judgment on sin is part of God's character and it does not negate his love. It seems you are making a false dichotomy between the two.

Though we are not under the law like this today, and though we should love all people, this does not mean we accept or endorse that which God has condemned (such as homosexual union).

 

[Marcia]

I want to make the point that no society or culture has ever had same sex marriage until very recently. It is not as though this was something once accepted and now people are prejudiced against it. Same sex was never accepted.

 

[Surfer Joe]

I think that it is easy to conflate the political and religious issues here. One can support (or at least not actively oppose) same-sex marriage politically without endorsing it personally.

Whether or not a same-sex couple can enter into a legal contract in the eyes of the state is not necessarily applicable to the question of ecclesiastical endorsement.

Agreed....

 

[Jedi Knight]

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[OldRegular]

Originally Posted by OldRegular
I assume you are implying that the Old Testament does not speak of love. May I say that ignorance of Scripture is no excuse for childish sarcasm!

response Posted by StefanM
I'll go with the grace and truth that came through Christ (cf. John 1) over the violence of the law any day.

And for the record, stoning someone isn't loving, regardless of whether or not the law speaks of it.

Obedience to GOD is loving GOD. Loving and obeying GOD is the first duty of the "True Believer".

Again your ignorance of Scripture is no excuse for childish sarcasm!

 

[StefanM]

Obedience to GOD is loving GOD. Loving and obeying GOD is the first duty of the "True Believer".

Again your ignorance of Scripture is no excuse for childish sarcasm!

I am not ignorant of Scripture. I simply interpret it differently than you. You could stand to be less cold and condescending.

 

[OldRegular]

You could stand to be less cold and condescending.

As my mother always told me: "A guilty conscience needs no accuser."

 

[OldRegular]

I am not ignorant of Scripture. I simply interpret it differently than you.

It appears to me that you are endorsing the homosexual lifestyle which is strongly condemned in both the Old and New Testaments.