What is your astrology sign

Marcia, I understand where you are coming from, but I am not in that boat. I have never in my lifetime seen anyone hooked on a false religion because of newspaper horoscopes. I appreciate the people whose ministry is working with the cults are more sensitive to what we may deem minor issues. Not the doctrines they teach, but the people who follow those cults.

I come from a religiously superstituous country, especially in East London, but I am not going to let that circle me in anywhere. If a funeral passed by we doffed our hats and recited a little ditty, otherwise we might meet the same fate or a relative.

Some people had their morning tealeaves read before going to work. Never enter a house with hat on, put socks and shoes on, right foot first. One can get all wrapped up in these things and forget about reality and actual living.

Sometimes we slip the tongue and say "good luck" to someone. We really don't believe in any sort of luck, good or bad, but we say it. I can't ring a ding because someone says that. There are far more important things in life.

Still, as I said, I am not putting you down at all, and appreciate where you are coming from.

Cheers,

Jim

 

Fortune cookies are a commercial enterprise made up by some business minded people who came up with fortune cookies. They are pretty harmless except when they give your 'lucky numbers," which some people will take seriously.

Just because they use the word "fortune" does not make them something that has anything to do with fortunetelling, especially since they mostly have statements like, "A kind person is rich in friends."

I don't think fortune cookies get people into the occult because they are not based on it. Horoscope columns are since they are based on astrology.

I don't bother talking about fortune cookies - I talk about the real stuff that is out there.

 

Jim, unlike you, I have known people who got into astrology and from that, deeper into the occult, because of horoscopes. One day, the horoscope happens to be right (by coincidence) and they are hooked. They start wanting to know more about their "sign." So they read something or go to an astrologer, and it just goes on from there. I realize most people do not get into the occult or astrology this way, but I have known several who have.

I got interested in astrology from horoscopes in high school, and I ended up being an astrologer! I realize other factors were involved, but the horoscopes played a part.

I am talking about much more than superstitions here. I know England is the birthplace and headquarters of the modern Neopagan movement and is full of New Age stuff, psychics, astrologers, etc. These things continue to be popular there, in Europe, and here.

I do appreciate your encouraging words, Jim.

 

I usually say that I wasn't born under a sign but in a hospital under a light. and since I was born in the morning the most prominent start that could be viewed at that time would have been the sun. Plus have you ever noticed horror (scopes) no matter what sign a discription is under can be evenly applied to everyone? Plus I always wondered why people who claim to be reincarnated always have done so being from a famous person. Or that their "spiritual guide" was from Atlantis or Mu. Why can't a "spiritual guide" be a dead tribesman from Papau New Guiney. Or why can't they be re-incarnated from a drunken louse who never did anything of import? Just questions I have.

 

I know I shouldn't know my sign but it's sagittarius.

 

Yes, Marcia, Madame Blavatsky had her greatest strength in the UK. I understand the history and doctrines of the various religions, but that was as far as my teaching went. To compare them with the Philosophy of the Christian religion.

Cheers,

Jim

 

If you know you shouldn't even know it, I wonder why you're posting it. Silly disclaimers... "I know I shouldn't say this, but......................"

 

Some New Agers make exotic claims, but in my almost 20 yrs. of experience in the New Age, most didn't. I only knew one person who claimed a famous previous life (and it wasn't all that famous) -- all others "remembered" lives of non-famous people, including myself.

Spirit guides are often Native American chiefs, because the New Age romanticizes Native Americans and their religions. But many are not -- they are just "enlightened" beings (supposedly) who have transcended life on this plane and are on another plane to guide those who are ready. One of the most common statements of people on this path is "When the student is ready, the teacher appears." The teacher can be in the flesh but can also be a guide. Naturally, these guides are demons.

Many people are introduced to spirit guides via visualization exercises or forms of Eastern/New Age meditation, either deliberately or accidentally.

 

There are a lot of things we shouldn't know, but we would be fools to say we didn't know of them.

Cheers,

Jim

 

weird. What happens when we enter the age of aquarius? Do we all have to carry water? Curious.

 

This may have been asked in jest but I'm answering seriously.

The Age of Aquarius in astrology has nothing to do with water. Aquarius is actually an air sign (even though the symbol is a man with a pitcher of water). Air signs have to do with mental and communication characteristics.

In astrology and in the New Age, the Age of Aquarius signifies several things, some of which are:
1. Revolutionary and/or innovative changes in government
2. Breakthroughs in technological, medical, and other areas (Aquarius rules invention)
3. Going from the outer teacher to the inner teacher
4. The greater good of the community over individual good
5. Stronger sense of brotherhood among different nations

There are other interpretations but the above would probably be agreed on by most astrologers.

I've actually done workshops on this to help Christians understand the New Age mindset re the Age of Aquarius - there is one, and they interpret things through this belief.

 

I have no idea what my "sign" is although there is a Oriental buffet restraunt I "patronize" that has those thingy's as placemats

You no like Moo Goo Ga Pan???

No more Shrimp for you---Shrimp for Supper buffet---you pay for Dinner buffet----no more Shrimp---you eat one more Shrimp---I call cops!!!!

:tongue3::tongue3::tongue3:

 

Thanks Marcia. The quesiton was in Jest. Because the Latin phrase Aquarius means "water carrier". All that other stuff is strange extrapolation. The New Age should come to terms with latin since they use it so much. Also note that when I was a kid I liked the song "we are in the age of Aquarius" but now I find it irritating. And obvoulsy the singers didn't see Zeitgeist to realize we have some way to go yet before the actual age of aquarius hits. What do the New Agers think about December 21, 2012?

 

Blackbird - you the one been eatin' all the schrimp :tongue3:

 

I have a little fun. I tell them:

It doesn't really matter since I'm dead anyway. Besides, since those things only pertain to people who are of "this" world, I'm not included.

This usually gets me some interesting looks, and actaully I get quite a good conversation out it where I can share my faith and why it they hold no bearing nor interest for a true believer.

 

Just for my amusement, I checked my local paper. It calls it Your Horo-Scoop! I am Capricorn, and share birthday with Fidel Castro and Karl Marx...wow! Some connection. Then it says:

Saw a BLUEBIRD To-day
I stood quietly
While it stared at me
Then gently flew away.

You have the urge for new experiences and some excitement. Don't sit by quietly and let opportunities slip away. Remain on the go but resist the temptation to pack your bags and go on a long trip. Things will be happening in your favour close to home so stay put.

Very true generalities, but this could apply to anyone. I guess this is how people could get caught up in it.

Think I will stick with reality.

Cheers,

Jim, Capricorn, the old goat!

 

A man carrying water has nothing to do with it being water - in fact, because the symbol is human, it is associated with the intellect, like Gemini (twins) and Libra (woman holding a scale). So it makes sense in that way that Aquarius is air. Also, it's the way the signs fall around the circle: fire, earth, air, water, fire, earth, air, water, fire, earth, air, water.

Actually, most New Agers think we have entered the Age of Aquarius or that we are about to.

New Agers love the 2012 date - I think most of them believe that it represents a shift in consciousness. Some might think it will be a time of "earth changes" - this has been a long predicted time of upheaval: earthquakes, floods, etc. But I think most believe the former.

I have a brief article on 2012:
http://christiananswersforthenewage.org/Articles_MayanProphecy.html

 

Chinese astrology is radically different from Western astrology, which came from Greece via Rome, and before that, the Arab world and the Babylonians.

 

Those pesky Chaldians!

 

You aren't sharing the shrimp!