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Question about a Catholic litany
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I read the Vigil for Christmas Eve and could not spot it. I would be surprised if this is not confused over the passage of years by you. Having said this, you probably attended a Novo Ordo Rite rather than the Tridentine which I attend.
Christmas Vigils are very long and a source of great joy for me and the folks who attend. We start off about 2230 hrs with an hour and a half of carols and a rosary. At Midnight the Mass is offered, amid blazing candles and flowers.....the priest arrives in procession with an image of Jesus as a babe and laid in the manger.....it gets pretty noisy when the bells strike in the night air. I get to bed around 0300hrs, quite a few folk front up for the dawn service as well....:sleeping_2:
Geneis 14:18-20
Melchizedek, king of Salem, brought out bread and wine,
and being a priest of God Most High, he blessed Abram with these words:
"Blessed be Abram by God Most High, the creator of heaven and earth;
And blessed be God Most High, who delivered your foes into your hand."
Then Abram gave him a tenth of everything.
Melchizedek, king of Salem, brought out bread and wine,
and being a priest of God Most High, he blessed Abram with these words:
"Blessed be Abram by God Most High, the creator of heaven and earth;
And blessed be God Most High, who delivered your foes into your hand."
Then Abram gave him a tenth of everything.
Thinkingstuff
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My father told me that the Current pope wants to get back to the Triniditine Mass. And He also said that the Novo Ordo has been re-translated to reflect the old Latin Liturgy better. Is this true?
Yes, while I was in RCIA, I was told that the current Pope wants to see the current Liturgy reflect pre-Vatican II...
We have a lot of now Orthodox that have left the RCC due to the Liturgical changes that resulted from Vatican II.
In XC
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Thinkingstuff
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Why is this a problem for them? I mean Going to the Orthodox Church they still use Greek in their liturgy.
The Eastern Orthodox Rite is different to the Latin Rite but deemed correct by the Vatican, this is not to be confused with the say Russian Orthodox or Greek Orthodox which was the outcome of a schism in the Church....old history. There are a number of recognised minor Rites such as the Marionite etc. I am a lay person recalling history, I don't pretend to know a great deal about this.
The current Pope is very aware of the deviations and abuses that have galloped in post Vatican 2. He is endeavouring to steer the Church back on course to the letter ( I think ) of the changes brought about by V2. He is by no means a Traditionalist, as Cardinal Ratzinger he played a major role in V2.
The Latinisation of the Novo Ordo does not rectify grave deviations in the offering of the Mass, again I will not attempt to list the concerns as it is not an area I am able to speak on with any authority
The current Pope is very aware of the deviations and abuses that have galloped in post Vatican 2. He is endeavouring to steer the Church back on course to the letter ( I think ) of the changes brought about by V2. He is by no means a Traditionalist, as Cardinal Ratzinger he played a major role in V2.
The Latinisation of the Novo Ordo does not rectify grave deviations in the offering of the Mass, again I will not attempt to list the concerns as it is not an area I am able to speak on with any authority
Thinkingstuff
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Dominus Vobiscum
You are probably aware of the 'Anglican Use' provision that was authorized under John-Paul II for parishes (for some reason mostly in Texas!) that are fleeing the Episcopal Church and are now in full communion with Rome. Our Lady of the Atonement Catholic Church (Anglican Use) in San Antonio has a wonderful website. I miss Anglican chant! I wish one of those parishes would be established near where I live.
I attended a Maronite Catholic Church in Utica, N.Y. The liturgy could not have been more beautiful! It is considered to be one on the most ancient of the Christian liturgies on record.
I attended a Maronite Catholic Church in Utica, N.Y. The liturgy could not have been more beautiful! It is considered to be one on the most ancient of the Christian liturgies on record.
Wow! I just finished reading a recent post on a conservative Anglican blogsite. Apparently the Vatican has announced there will be an announcement regarding the relationship with Anglicans tommarrow at 11:30 AM. I think that is about 5:00 AM PST if I'm not mistaken.
This could pave the way for lot of Episcopal and Traditional Anglican Churches to be received into full-communion with the Catholic Church. No way the pope will welcome in the liberal element with this re-unification. The Traditional Anglican Communion applied to be received into full-communion with Rome over two years ago. I think it may take place.
This could pave the way for lot of Episcopal and Traditional Anglican Churches to be received into full-communion with the Catholic Church. No way the pope will welcome in the liberal element with this re-unification. The Traditional Anglican Communion applied to be received into full-communion with Rome over two years ago. I think it may take place.
One step closer to the soon-coming, one-world church of the anti-christ.
The Vatican announced this morning that Anglican Churches may be reunited with Rome.
This is a major game changer for the Anglican Communion, a seventy million strong Church that has been deeply divided over the past years over the authority of Holy Scripture. Those parishes and their priests and deacons subscribing will be allowed to be reuinified with the Holy Catholic Church and retain the Anglican Use Liturgy. Liberal element need NOT apply!
ROME SWEET HOME!!
This is a major game changer for the Anglican Communion, a seventy million strong Church that has been deeply divided over the past years over the authority of Holy Scripture. Those parishes and their priests and deacons subscribing will be allowed to be reuinified with the Holy Catholic Church and retain the Anglican Use Liturgy. Liberal element need NOT apply!
ROME SWEET HOME!!
Thinkingstuff
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How does this work? Does the Archbishop of Cantabury agree to this? Do congregants individually choose? Whats the down and dirty? Can they remain Anglican and receive communion in a Catholic Church? Are they an additional rite? Do they have to put 666 on their forehead and right hands? :laugh: I said that last bit to humor DHK. How does it work?
The Archbishop of Cantebury and Archbishop of Westmnister have released a joint statement. Apparently, the Archbishop of Cantebury has only known about this for the last couple of weeks and is probably 'not a happy bunny' right now.
This does not mean that all Anglicans are automatically in full communion with the Catholic Church. Whole congregations, diocese including priests and deacons (married or not) may retain the Anglican liturgy and be in full communion with the Catholic Church. So, I think to answer your question, it does in fact establish another rite within the Catholic Church.
This does not mean that all Anglicans are automatically in full communion with the Catholic Church. Whole congregations, diocese including priests and deacons (married or not) may retain the Anglican liturgy and be in full communion with the Catholic Church. So, I think to answer your question, it does in fact establish another rite within the Catholic Church.
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That makes 23 right?
What are your personal feelings about this?
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