Camping Sets Another Date for Jesus' Return

[Marcia]

Harold Camping is at it again. It seems he didn't learn from his failed "prophecy" that Jesus would come back in 1994. <groan>

Harold Camping lets out a hearty chuckle when he considers the people who
believe the world will end in 2012.

"That date has not one stitch of biblical authority," Camping says from the
Oakland office where he runs Family Radio, an evangelical station that
reaches listeners around the world. "It's like a fairy tale."

The real date for the end of times, he says, is in 2011.

The Mayans and the recent Hollywood movie "2012" have put the apocalypse in
the popular mind this year, but Camping has been at this business for a long
time. And while Armageddon is pop science or big-screen entertainment to
many, Camping has followers from the Bay Area to China.

Camping, 88, has scrutinized the Bible for almost 70 years and says he has
developed a mathematical system to interpret prophecies hidden within the
Good Book. One night a few years ago, Camping, a civil engineer by trade,
crunched the numbers and was stunned at what he'd found: The world will end
May 21, 2011.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/01/BA8V1AV589.DTL

 

[Marcia]

This is how Camping figured it out (from same article as above):

The number 5, Camping concluded, equals "atonement." Ten is "completeness." Seventeen means "heaven." Camping patiently explained how he reached his conclusion for May 21, 2011.

"Christ hung on the cross April 1, 33 A.D.," he began. "Now go to April 1 of 2011 A.D., and that's 1,978 years."

Camping then multiplied 1,978 by 365.2422 days - the number of days in each solar year, not to be confused with a calendar year.

Next, Camping noted that April 1 to May 21 encompasses 51 days. Add 51 to the sum of previous multiplication total, and it equals 722,500.

Camping realized that (5 x 10 x 17) x (5 x 10 x 17) = 722,500.
Or put into words: (Atonement x Completeness x Heaven), squared.

"Five times 10 times 17 is telling you a story," Camping said. "It's the story from the time Christ made payment for your sins until you're completely saved.

"I tell ya, I just about fell off my chair when I realized that," Camping said.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/01/BA8V1AV589.DTL#ixzz0bWoOZ7MU
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The sad thing is that a lot of Christians will believe this. He has his followers.

 

[annsni]

There is a couple that used to attend our church who follows him.

Naturally they don't attend our church any longer because we're in "error".

They caused a lot of trouble while they were there.

 

[Revmitchell]

Given: Barney is a CUTE PURPLE DINOSAUR
Prove: Barney is satanic

The Romans had no letter 'U', and used 'V' instead for
printing, meaning the Roman representation would for
Barney would be: CVTE PVRPLE DINOSAVR

CVTE PVRPLE DINOSAVR

Extracting the Roman numerals, we have:
CV V L DI V

And their decimal equivalents are:
100 5 5 50 500 1 5

Adding those numbers produces: 666.

666 is the number of the Beast.

Proved: BARNEY IS SATAN!

 

[Marcia]

There is a couple that used to attend our church who follows him.

Naturally they don't attend our church any longer because we're in "error".

They caused a lot of trouble while they were there.

Did they try to get people to leave church? Camping teaches that the church age is over and everyone is only supposed to meet in homes. If you are in church, you are apostate (unless he's changed that lately).

 

[Tom Butler]

Isn't it generally agreed that Jesus was born between 7BC and 4BC according to our current calendars? That would put Jesus death between 26 AD and 29 AD, not 33 AD.

If that's the case, haven't we already missed the rapture?

 

[Tom Bryant]

Given: Barney is a CUTE PURPLE DINOSAUR
Prove: Barney is satanic

The Romans had no letter 'U', and used 'V' instead for
printing, meaning the Roman representation would for
Barney would be: CVTE PVRPLE DINOSAVR

CVTE PVRPLE DINOSAVR

Extracting the Roman numerals, we have:
CV V L DI V

And their decimal equivalents are:
100 5 5 50 500 1 5

Adding those numbers produces: 666.

666 is the number of the Beast.

Proved: BARNEY IS SATAN!

Well, I always knew that!!

Seriously, I hope he's right! Would love for Jesus to return then! or sooner.

 

[Salty]

I was wondering if he knew Edgar Whisenant, but I did not know that he had died a few years ago.

 

[annsni]

Did they try to get people to leave church? Camping teaches that the church age is over and everyone is only supposed to meet in homes. If you are in church, you are apostate (unless he's changed that lately).

I've just been made aware of some of this stuff but yes, there was one couple they've tried to get to leave the church. She also spoke to another woman telling her about this stuff but didn't tell them to leave the church.

 

[Marcia]

I've just been made aware of some of this stuff but yes, there was one couple they've tried to get to leave the church. She also spoke to another woman telling her about this stuff but didn't tell them to leave the church.

Here is more info on Camping:
http://www.watchman.org/staff/tmartin/camping.pdf

 

[annsni]

Here is more info on Camping:
http://www.watchman.org/staff/tmartin/camping.pdf

Yep - When I found out about this family being into him, I had to do some study. NOT happy with what I read and it certainly made me first of all pray for them and second of all get armed in case she approaches me about it. I'm sad that such a smart family fell for such inerrant teaching.

 

[Johnv]

Camping Sets Another Date for Jesus' Return

Harold Camping is an idiot. He makes Westboro Baptist Church look good.

 

[BobRyan]

Given: Barney is a CUTE PURPLE DINOSAUR
Prove: Barney is satanic

The Romans had no letter 'U', and used 'V' instead for
printing, meaning the Roman representation would for
Barney would be: CVTE PVRPLE DINOSAVR

CVTE PVRPLE DINOSAVR

Extracting the Roman numerals, we have:
CV V L DI V

Funny - but that is about it when it comes to applicability to the Bible statement in Rev 13 that the "number of the name" is 666.

The one instructive thing that comes out of the joke in the post above - is that it shows the classic error of mixing an english name with Roman Numbers.

For this to have an ounce of plausibility then at the "very least" you need to be using a Latin name when applying Latin Numbers-for-letters.

Then at least the joke has "one leg" to stand on.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[Rubato 1]

Camping is a very intelligent, thinking, proud fool. I'm afraid it is pride that stands in the way of him or his followers seeing his error.

:jesus:

 

[Eric B]

Funny - but that is about it when it comes to applicability to the Bible statement in Rev 13 that the "number of the name" is 666.

The one instructive thing that comes out of the joke in the post above - is that it shows the classic error of mixing an english name with Roman Numbers.

For this to have an ounce of plausibility then at the "very least" you need to be using a Latin name when applying Latin Numbers-for-letters.

Then at least the joke has "one leg" to stand on.

in Christ,

Bob

Even better is to use Greek or Hebrew/Aramaic, since those are the actual languages used in the Bible.

 

[BobRyan]

Even better is to use Greek or Hebrew/Aramaic, since those are the actual languages used in the Bible.

I would agree with Hebrew numbers for Hebrew letters - but in Rev 13 the entity being described is Roman. Thus the language that the Rev 13 entity would select for naming itself is not at all likely to be "Hebrew".

In the Rev 13 context - whatever this beast is -- is setting up its own version of an image and a mark - and enforcing that system world wide.

We know it is of Roman origin since it takes over from the same power in Rev 12 that tries to kill Christ (pagan Rome) and it also is described in Rev 17 as "Babylon" and Peter indicates that this was the name for Rome in his letter.

So "latin" wins in this case.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[zrs6v4]

Isn't it generally agreed that Jesus was born between 7BC and 4BC according to our current calendars? That would put Jesus death between 26 AD and 29 AD, not 33 AD.

If that's the case, haven't we already missed the rapture?

I thought the exact same thing..

 

[Eric B]

I would agree with Hebrew numbers for Hebrew letters - but in Rev 13 the entity being described is Roman. Thus the language that the Rev 13 entity would select for naming itself is not at all likely to be &quot;Hebrew&quot;.

In the Rev 13 context - whatever this beast is -- is setting up its own version of an image and a mark - and enforcing that system world wide.

We know it is of Roman origin since it takes over from the same power in Rev 12 that tries to kill Christ (pagan Rome) and it also is described in Rev 17 as &quot;Babylon&quot; and Peter indicates that this was the name for Rome in his letter.

So &quot;latin&quot; wins in this case.

in Christ,

Bob

But don't forget, Hebrew and Greek have words for Roman things, and these add up to 666 as well:
ROMIITH; LATEINOS (founder of Rome)
QSR NRON (Nero)
HE LATINe BASILEIA (the Latin Kingdom)
And here's one for the Church: ITALIKA EKKLeSIA

 

[lori4dogs]

If he is teaching that all churches hve become apostate and should be avoided, what is his solution? Listen to him?

 

[David Michael Harris]

If at first you don't succeed, try, try again.