Who really cares?

[Jarthur001]

I have not been able to spend much time on here for a while. You guys may have talked about this already. So forgive me if this is old stuff.

I came across a book.."Who really cares?"

BOOK LINK

The writer points out that it is believers that give more than any other group.

I wrote a column on it tonight...

COLUMN


Anyway, I have not read the book. I wonder if any of you have read it. I wrote my column based on what they said on the book site. If you have read it, do you think he gave a good argument? I mean, I think we all know that people of faith are the ones that give, but I deal with atheist a lot, and they deny this.

 

[Jarthur001]

I have not been able to spend much time on here for a while. You guys may have talked about this already. So forgive me if this is old stuff.

I came across a book.."Who really cares?"

BOOK LINK

The writer points out that it is believers that give more than any other group.

I wrote a column on it tonight...

COLUMN


Anyway, I have not read the book. I wonder if any of you have read it. I wrote my column based on what they said on the book site. If you have read it, do you think he gave a good argument? I mean, I think we all know that people of faith are the ones that give, but I deal with atheist a lot, and they deny this.

I guess no one cares... lol

 

[Jon-Marc]

Only those who have read can have an informed opinion of it.

 

[Jarthur001]

Only those who have read can have an informed opinion of it.

This is true Jon-Marc.

 

[billwald]

Don't know anything about the book but I know a little about lying with statistics.

For example, church going people may claim a larger charity deduction than non-church going people BUT most church budgets that I have seen distribute less than 10% of their budget on/for outsiders. Maybe 80% or more is spent on providing a nice comfortable building for themselves, a preacher who tells them what they want to hear, a youth pastor who entertains their children . . . .

 

[SBCPreacher]

...Maybe 80% or more is spent on providing a nice comfortable building for themselves, a preacher who tells them what they want to hear, a youth pastor who entertains their children . . . .

You don't like church, do you?

If you do, then why do you have such a low opinion of it?

How sad.

 

[billwald]

I don't have a low opinion of the Church. I have a low opinion of the human race.

 

[BobRyan]

Don't know anything about the book but I know a little about lying with statistics.

For example, church going people may claim a larger charity deduction than non-church going people BUT most church budgets that I have seen distribute less than 10% of their budget on/for outsiders. Maybe 80% or more is spent on providing a nice comfortable building for themselves, a preacher who tells them what they want to hear, a youth pastor who entertains their children . . . .

That is not the case in my denomination.

The Tithe money is sent outside the church to Pastors, Missionaries, teachers etc. A huge percentage of it goes outside of North America.

The offering is seperate from Tithe. That stays in the local church (usually) and is always something less between 10% to 40% of what the church gets in tithe. So if a church gets 1 million in tithe for a year - it will have about 100,000 or 200,000 in local church budget on top of that.

Pastors in North America - in this denomination - get paid between 30 something (in thousands) and 50 something depending on the region and the size of the church. That money goes back to them from the central conference -- it is not determined by local church boards or by what they do in church. So when they preach on a topic, or raise funds or engage in a building project - they get no change in salary for doing it. And if the local church does not like the message - it also does not affect the salary of the pastor.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

Dear Bob, is that 30/50,000$ per month or annum?

 

[billwald]

Bob, which denomination?

Most traditional Plymouth Brethern Churches don't have a paid preacher and maybe 70% or more of the offering goes to missionaries.

 

[BobRyan]

Dear Bob, is that 30/50,000$ per month or annum?

30,000 - 50,000 per year.

per month would be astounding for us. Beyond all belief.

 

[BobRyan]

Bob, which denomination?

Seventh-day Adventist.