Did God create the universe in 6-24 hr days? Or do some scientist who say Billlions upon Billions of years pull weight? Why do you believe what you believe?
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In the Beginning....
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God it outside of time. Thus, to try to impose time on anything God does is meaningless. Genesis is not a science book. It is a book explaining that God did it and explaining it in a way that pre-scientific people could understand.
Dr. Walter
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It is true that Genesis is not a science book, but it is equally true that Genesis does not contradict true science.
If the Bible is its own best interpreter (context) then these are six 24 hour days as this languauge "the evening and the morning" are never used in Scripture for anything other than a 24 hour day period.
Robert Snow
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I believe in the Gap Theory.
Tom Bryant
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I believe it was 6 24 hour days. I believe that is what the Bible teaches. I believe that which Jesus taught.
>It is true that Genesis is not a science book, but it is equally true that Genesis does not contradict true science.
John 12:24
I tell you the truth, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds.
contradicts true science. Dead seeds don't sprout. That's why farmers "proof" their seeds.
John 12:24
I tell you the truth, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds.
contradicts true science. Dead seeds don't sprout. That's why farmers "proof" their seeds.
Amen! :thumbs:
Dr. Walter
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Jesus is speaking of what all knew to be true and that is the decomposition of the outer husk or shell of the seed. The contact of the earth with the outer husk produced decomposition allowing the inner life to express itself.
BobRyan
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God created the earth and all life on it - the Sun and the moon (two lights in the sky) in 6 literal days and rested the 7 th literal day "SIX DAYS you shall labor...for in SIX DAYS the Lord made..." Ex 20:11
God also - at some other time created the stars - but not on day 4.
in Christ,
Bob
BobRyan
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All you are doing is arguing a reason why the text should NOT have said "SIX days you shall labor..for in SIX DAYS the Lord Made".
You are arguing a reason for why the text should NOT have said "and there was evening and there was morning a sixth day".
Your argument is with the text.
2 Tim 3:16 "ALL scripture is given by inspiration from GOD and is profitable for doctrine"
2Peter 1:19-20 "NO prophecy of scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation... holy men of old moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from GOD".
Is it remotely possible that God being infinite "does not know how " to say "I took billions of years to get this done"??
Notice that we have Moses describing armies and people groups of "millions" of people in Genesis.
And far from stating timelines that are too short - in Genesis 1-9 Moses is talking about people that live many centuries.
in Christ,
Bob
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Question: How was there a literal 24 hour day in creation in days 1-3 when the sun was not created until the 4th day? Just wondering.
Tom Bryant
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Here it goes again....
If God did not mean 6 literal days, then why did He not say so? If He created over a period of millions or billions of years, He would have said so. If we begin doubting the Word of God in Genesis the door is open to doubt all of God's Word. So if we doubt the 6 literal days, then where do we stop doubting and questioning?
Your so right my brother.:applause:
And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days.
Daniel 8:26 AV 1873
Tom Bryant
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You may want to re-read that verse. The vision was given in the evening and the morning. The fulfillment would not be for many days.
mcdirector
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I believe it is 6 24-hour days. It is true that God is outside of time, but we are not. We need those days and weeks to function. God set them up in creation for us.
It has always amazed me how some Christians base their salvation--and the salvation of all Christians--upon a few chapters in Genesis.
Personally, I have been in most corners of this issue. And I do not think that it matters all that much.
Today, I look around my study and I see Bibles and biblical study books. I also see books on English romantic poetry, Greek classical literature, seafaring novels, bird watching, geology, biology, astronomy, nature field guides, and local history. I also have a microscope, two telescopes, geology hammer, field bags, insect boxes, and several binoculars in my study. I consider all of these to be compatible.
My salvation does not depend upon what I see in a telescope, microscope, or a few chapters in the book of Genesis. Nor does my salvation depend upon Calvinist, dispensational, or fundamental theologies. My salvation is based on John 3:16 and other passages.
I have heard and read all of the major arguments from all corners of this issue. This is what I believe.
...Bob
Personally, I have been in most corners of this issue. And I do not think that it matters all that much.
Today, I look around my study and I see Bibles and biblical study books. I also see books on English romantic poetry, Greek classical literature, seafaring novels, bird watching, geology, biology, astronomy, nature field guides, and local history. I also have a microscope, two telescopes, geology hammer, field bags, insect boxes, and several binoculars in my study. I consider all of these to be compatible.
My salvation does not depend upon what I see in a telescope, microscope, or a few chapters in the book of Genesis. Nor does my salvation depend upon Calvinist, dispensational, or fundamental theologies. My salvation is based on John 3:16 and other passages.
I have heard and read all of the major arguments from all corners of this issue. This is what I believe.
...Bob
It matters; it matters a lot.
The first 11 chapters of Genesis sets the foundation of the entire Bible. No portion of Scripture is attacked by the liberals (unbelievers) than this portion of Scripture. When witnessing to another, if one cannot get past the first few verse of Gen.1:1, there is little use of going any further.
"In the beginning God created."
The first four words both asserts and assumes the existence of God. If one doesn't believe in God what use is there in presenting the gospel. Jesus said "Don't cast your pearls before swine." This is the foundation of the Bible--belief in God; belief in a Creator. If one has no belief in a God who has created all things, then he is an atheist. Why go any further.
It matters a lot.
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