Revelation 17 and Rome

[brucebaptist]

my question is...

If Rome is not the harlot church of Rev 17... than who is???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toBOML5W4uQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofpa6npXQoY&feature=related

 

[Dr. Walter]

my question is...

If Rome is not the harlot church of Rev 17... than who is???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toBOML5W4uQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofpa6npXQoY&feature=related

If the Bible is its own best interpreter of symbolic terms then I can clearly tell you who she is not.

1. She is not the GOVERNMENT of Rome as "she" rides on the back of what symbolizes goverments - beast - beasts are used in Daniel for world governments - Dan. 7

2. She is not SECULAR Rome as she is called "Mystery Babylon" which refers to the "mystery religions" of Ancient Babylon. Additionally, she holds a cup full of "abominations" that symbolizes her religious philosophies as she traffics in "souls" - Rom. 17:1-5; 18:4,13 - as she is the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. -Rev. 18:2-3


3. She continues to the final "hour" when the Beast with ten kingdoms turn and destroy her before they engage the King of Kings which was future from John's day - Rev. 17:15-17

4. She is representative of something that God and all heaven hates and her destruction is the cause of rejoicing in heaven - Rev. 19:1-4.

5. She is Rome (Rev. 17:18) but not merely a literal city any more than the Lord's church is characterized as a literal "city" set on a hill.

6. She is set in contrast to the Lord's Church in Revelation 17-21.

a. Both are women ("harlot" versus "bride") - Rev. 17:5; 19:6
b. Both are cities (earthly versus heavenly) - Rev. 17:18; 21:1-26
c. Both contain true children of God - Rev. 18:4; Rev. 21:24
d. The Children of God she retains (Rev. 18:4) the Bride places outside the New Jerusalem (Rev. 21:24) and the children of God outsider her are inside the Bride (Rev. 19:6-7; 22:1-3).

7. She is polluted/perverted/ religion that forms an illicit union with secular governments that becomes inclusive of paganized Christianity

Alexander Hislop's "Two Babylons" is extremely well documented and NNE has been able to overthrow his documented evidence that papal Rome is "mystery Babylon."

 

[brucebaptist]

If the Bible is its own best interpreter of symbolic terms then I can clearly tell you who she is not.

1. She is not the GOVERNMENT of Rome as "she" rides on the back of what symbolizes goverments - beast - beasts are used in Daniel for world governments - Dan. 7

2. She is not SECULAR Rome as she is called "Mystery Babylon" which refers to the "mystery religions" of Ancient Babylon. Additionally, she holds a cup full of "abominations" that symbolizes her religious philosophies as she traffics in "souls" - Rom. 17:1-5; 18:4,13 - as she is the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. -Rev. 18:2-3


3. She continues to the final "hour" when the Beast with ten kingdoms turn and destroy her before they engage the King of Kings which was future from John's day - Rev. 17:15-17

4. She is representative of something that God and all heaven hates and her destruction is the cause of rejoicing in heaven - Rev. 19:1-4.

5. She is Rome (Rev. 17:18) but not merely a literal city any more than the Lord's church is characterized as a literal "city" set on a hill.

6. She is set in contrast to the Lord's Church in Revelation 17-21.

a. Both are women ("harlot" versus "bride") - Rev. 17:5; 19:6
b. Both are cities (earthly versus heavenly) - Rev. 17:18; 21:1-26
c. Both contain true children of God - Rev. 18:4; Rev. 21:24
d. The Children of God she retains (Rev. 18:4) the Bride places outside the New Jerusalem (Rev. 21:24) and the children of God outsider her are inside the Bride (Rev. 19:6-7; 22:1-3).

7. She is polluted/perverted/ religion that forms an illicit union with secular governments that becomes inclusive of paganized Christianity

Alexander Hislop's "Two Babylons" is extremely well documented and NNE has been able to overthrow his documented evidence that papal Rome is "mystery Babylon."

well said. hyslop was dead on.

every foul and unclean bird comes from rome... soul traffickers, yes! :jesus: